Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #53829
From: Kailani <freyas.favored@gmail.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Tone on list
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:02:31 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
It's not about freedom to express your opinions.  Honestly that's a
craptastic excuse people use to be rude anymore.  I have no problem
whatsoever with anyone disagreeing with anything said anywhere.  I
have a problem with people being rude and nasty and disguising it in
smarmy comments or justifying it by saying "I know this may offend
some people".  That's just a juvenile way of justifying being a jerk.

If you are stating the facts as you see them and letting your argument
rest on facts instead of opinion you don't have to qualify it with a
"might offend" disclaimer.

I have read this list for a long time (as stated before) and left for
a bit before returning.  I have always been impressed with the
knowledge shared here.  But when I read a member basically wishing
death upon another whom they know nothing about I think a line has
been crossed that should not be crossed by supposedly mature
responsible adults.

Again, it's not about freedom.  It's about common decency.

I disagree with a lot of people about a lot of things but in my
wildest imagination I cannot even begin to consider saying to someone
"well when you die.....insert obnoxious comment here".  Not only is
that nothing but posturing, it takes away any credence or respect I
will put into anything that person says from that point forward.

Kristy

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Colyn Case at earthlink
<colyncase@earthlink.net> wrote:
I agree with Jim mostly but I think freedom cuts both ways.

person a says:  I have done a certain thing.    (asserts his freedom to do a
certain thing)

person b says: I have decided a) not to do the certain thing b) that my
doing the certain thing impacts the freedoms of others so I don't and c) I
prefer not to fly with people that do the certain thing and may even say d)
I prefer that people that do certain thing are not part of my insurance
pool.

(asserts freedoms  (a) through (d) and points out some interconnections in
the community)

People that are interested in defending freedom should not be offended in
the freedom's asserted by (b).
Subscribe (FEED) Subscribe (DIGEST) Subscribe (INDEX) Unsubscribe Mail to Listmaster