Return-Path: Received: from smtp5.gateway.net ([208.230.117.249]) by ns1.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-64832U3500L350S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 03:13:37 -0400 Received: from oemcomputer (1Cust220.tnt1.coeur-dalene.id.da.uu.net [63.27.107.220]) by smtp5.gateway.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA10620 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 03:19:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001601bfb407$b15a0220$036b1b3f@oemcomputer> Reply-To: "dfs" From: "dfs" To: "Lancair List" Subject: 24V vs. 12V electrical system Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 00:25:39 -0700 X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Ohms law makes the answer pretty simple, Tim; As a simple example, a 12 watt load at 12 volts requires 1 amp and the commensurate wire size - a 12 watt load at 24 volts draws 0.5 amp and requires one-half the wire size. The weight per unit length is approximately proportional to the wire size (there are some small differences in this as the insulation weight doesn't exactly half). A double voltage system can theoretically cut your total aircraft wire weight in half, though realistically due to wiring components such as lugs, connectors and etc, 40% reduction is probably more like it. Some of the big poles in the tent can really save weight such as the starter cables - unfortunately, you're still going to have to use the standard size RF cables so no weight savings are available there. IMHO, there just isn't enough total wire weight in a Lancair (at least the two seaters) to put up with the aggravation of going 24 volt. Too much airplane stuff is, right or wrong, designed for 12 volts and is a lot easier to find when replacement parts are needed from the factory or the local FBO. Double (or higher) voltage systems really only make sense when applied to fairly large aircraft - there you're talking about miles and miles and maybe tons of wire - where a 40% weight saving is worth the effort. Some of you might be interested in the fact that the B-1 (the program where I misspent most of my 30 years with Rockwell) is primarily an AC powered aircraft (it had only two small 15 amp-hour batteries on board) and it uses a double voltage system (230/400 volts AC, 3 phase) instead of the more common 115/208 volt system. The higher voltage system on an airplane of this size saved a huge amount of weight (and if we'd have had to use twice the wire size, we probably couldn't have gotten it all in the airplane!). Dan Schaefer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>