Return-Path: Received: from mail.tstonramp.com ([206.55.129.9]) by ns1.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-64832U3500L350S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 17:42:19 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (dsl-145-120.tstonramp.com [206.55.145.120]) by mail.tstonramp.com (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) with ESMTP id e41LjEa24319 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 14:45:14 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 14:47:50 -0700 Subject: Re: Confor foam/ Temperfoam Seat cushions From: Hal Woodruff To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20000501040603.AAA887@ns1.olsusa.com> X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Several years ago I orchestrated a "buy" of Confor foam (aka Temperfoam) for several Lancair 360 and Glasair builders. Because of my contacts in the foam industry (I'm in foam cushion packaging) I was able to put together a quantity purchase of the Blue, Pink, and Green Confor foam and saved those builders including myself considerable money. I'm just starting a IV-P project, and even though I'm years away from needing "seat foam", I'd be willing to put together another bulk purchase. The Confor foam comes in 3 stiffness ranges that commonly get used in aircraft seating. These are: Desc Color Density IFD* CF 47 Green 5.8 43 Stiff CF 45 Blue 6.0 34 Moderate CF 42 Pink 5.7 26 Soft * IFD - Indentation Force Deflection is a measure of resistance to compression - generically, is the stiffness rating. I used 1" thick sheet of each material in my LC20. The green foam I would recommend for the very bottom layer in the seat bottom - its too stiff to use close to the body. I used the green to give a maximum of protection in case of sudden stop in the vertical direction. Next is a layer of the blue foam and then a layer of the pink (closest to the body). This arrangement makes for a very comfortable Lancair 360 in which I can fly for 3-3.5 hours without moving (my range of motion is limited by the stick and instrument panel). I would be able to buy the foam at approx. 50% of the Aircraft Spruce cost and approx. 60% of the McMaster Carr cost. Additionally, since I need to buy in bun quantities it probably doesn't make any sense to bulk buy the green foam - not enough of it is used. The green can be purchased from McMaster-Carr. What needs to be determined is a schedule of sheet sizes that are required for four IV seats and/or two 360 seats. The bun size is 12 x 36 x 80. A practical size is probably 1 x 18 x 40 of each color (blue, pink) per seat. So potentially a bun of each material could make three sets of four seats for the LC4's, or six sets of two seats for the LC2's. Anybody keep records of how much foam it really takes? Anybody interested? Maybe we could get something going here to save some bucks. Hal Woodruff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>