Return-Path: Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com ([204.101.251.53]) by ns1.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-64832U3500L350S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 11:01:36 -0400 Received: from default (ppp91.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.245.91]) by smtp11.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA25000; Mon, 1 May 2000 11:13:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003101bfb37f$8d2390c0$5bf5acce@default> From: "Ian B. Crowe" To: Cc: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Removeable seat back Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 11:11:37 -0400 Organization: Corvi Trade Consultants Inc X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I too am in the throes of putting in a removeable seat back and the integrity of the seat back, as a bulkhead, has to be in question even if you installed it as per the manual. This is due to the fact that when you install the forward opening canopy the latch locking system operating handle requires a long 5/16" to 3/8"wide slot right in the middle of the back seat panel. This effectively removes 75% of the material and leaves you only a small portion at the top. You then glass on the top horiziontal portion to the seat back which gives it strength. In addition the back butts on to the elevator tunnel sides. I wanted my seat back to be removeable so I have spliced in hard points in the seat back at the console sides area and am fastening the console sides to the seat back via pieces of 11/4" angle and #8 screws. The top horizontal portion of the seat back is also a piece of 11/4" angle screwed to the seat back top. The seat back also has a hard point in it from one end to the other to carry the #8 screws which hold the seat back to the angle. I should add that on the fuselage sides I had preformed some 11/2" Al. angle which I floxed and glassed to the fuselage sides. It was a little tricky to get the right curvature but it worked out. The seat back rests on the angle and is held by #8 screws. I figure that the whole assembly would be at least as strong as the method shown in the manual. Having said all that there was very early on in the Lancair list an item from someone who had put removeable panels in the seat backs. Have a look for it Pine it might help. If you have a tame mechanical or structural engineer around he would be able to advise you as to the most effective way to maintain the structural integrity, which is doubtful at best, IMHO. Kind regards Ian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>