X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:58:15 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.42] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3902681 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:22:28 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.206.42; envelope-from=VTAILJEFF@aol.com Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n9SELoX4003176 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:21:50 -0400 Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id q.c8e.477e1dfa (37069) for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:21:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-me02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-me02.mx.aol.com [64.12.95.103]) by cia-db05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB053-b2cd4ae8536f55; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:21:45 -0400 Received: from webmail-m079 (webmail-m079.sim.aol.com [64.12.141.37]) by smtprly-me02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYME025-b2cd4ae8536f55; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:21:35 -0400 References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Copperstate fly-in X-Original-Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:21:35 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 76.215.111.104 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CC25F116FFBE21_3D00_2D9CB_webmail-m079.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 28878-STANDARD Received: from 76.215.111.104 by webmail-m079.sysops.aol.com (64.12.141.37) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:21:35 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CC25F116F175DB-3D00-164E5@webmail-m079.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: VTAILJEFF@aol.com ----------MB_8CC25F116FFBE21_3D00_2D9CB_webmail-m079.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Bill & Sue Congratulations on your win at Copperstate-- well deserved! It is a good= preparation for your record attempt. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Bill To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 6:44 pm Subject: [LML] Copperstate fly-in We flew our 320 out to the Copperstate fly-in in Casa Grande, AZ last week= end. A great fly-in with perfect wx. Several Lancairians were there compet= ing in the Fuelventure 400 race.=20 The race has two classifications; one is pure MPG. Whoever burns the least= fuel on the 400 sm course wins. The other is a CAFE foumula that takes into account speed, fuel burn and= payload. =20 It would be hard to imagine airplanes better suited to compete on an effic= iency basis than Lancairs. There were 2 Legacys, 1 - 360 and 1 - 320 in th= e competition in the 750-1,000 kg weight class ( 1,654 - 2,205 lbs). Being= the most underpowered (a relative term), our little 320 won both categori= es. =20 On Sunday we attempted to see if we could get back to Virginia nonstop. An= interesting project to say the least. With good wx, slight tailwinds and= a bottle of oxygen we were able to make it...barely. Here are some intere= sting comparisons to other forms of transportation. =20 Bill Harrelson N5ZQ 320 1,700 hrs N6ZQ IV under construction =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Casa Grande, Arizona (KCGZ) to Orange, VA (KOMH) =20 =20 Our flight time: 9 hrs 20 mins, nonstop 13,500, 15,500 and 17,500 ft. = =20 distance flown 2,006 sm, =20 fuel used 49.9 gallons, =20 average speed 211 mph =20 actual fuel mileage 39.4 mpg. =20 49.9 gal avgas @ 3.75/gal =3D $187.12 =20 fuel burn per person (2 people): 24.9 gallons cost per person: $93.56 =20 =20 =20 Yahoo maps driving directions shows the following distance and driving tim= e from Casa Grande to Orange.=20 This would require 3 hard days of driving, 2 nights in a hotel plus food. Trip distance: 2351 mi =20 Time: 34 hrs 35 mins =20 If your car got 30 miles/gal you would use 78.3 gallons.=20 78.3 gallons @ $2.50/gal =3D $195.75 plus hotels and food. fuel burn per person (2 people): 39.15 cost per person: $97.87 plus hotel and food. =20 =20 =20 The best airline schedule is UAL #952. Nonstop PHX - IAD other flights req= uire intermediate stops and add 2-5 hours. Flight time 4 hrs 19 mins.=20 Drive from Casa Grande to PHX airport 1 hr. Arrive PHX 1 hour before flight. Arrive IAD unload and take shuttle to main terminal, retrieve baggage 30= min. Drive to Orange 1:30 Total elapsed time: 8:19 Estimated fuel burn: 27,000 lbs =3D 4,030 gallons. (B-757, 3 class seatin= g) Fuel burn per person (110 seats): 36.6 gallons (does not include fuel bur= ned driving) Cheapest fare: $418 ----------MB_8CC25F116FFBE21_3D00_2D9CB_webmail-m079.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Bill & Sue
 
Congratulations on your win at Copperstate-- well deserved! It is a= good preparation for your record attempt.
 
Jeff



-----Original Message-----
From: Bill <n5zq@verizon.net>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 6:44 pm
Subject: [LML] Copperstate fly-in

We flew our 320 out to the Coppersta= te fly-in in Casa Grande, AZ last weekend. A great fly-in with perfect wx.= Several Lancairians were there competing in the Fuelventure 400 race.
The race has two classifications; one is= pure MPG. Whoever burns the least fuel on the 400 sm course wins.<= /div>
The other is a CAFE foumula that takes in= to account speed, fuel burn and payload.
 
It would be hard to imagine airplanes bet= ter suited to compete on an efficiency basis than Lancairs. There were 2= Legacys, 1 - 360 and 1 - 320 in the competition in the 750-1,000 kg= weight class ( 1,654 - 2,205 lbs). Being the most underpowered (a re= lative term), our little 320 won both categories.
 
On Sunday we attempted to see if we could= get back to Virginia nonstop. An interesting project to say the least. Wi= th good wx, slight tailwinds and a bottle of oxygen we were able to make= it...barely. Here are some interesting comparisons to other forms of tran= sportation.
 
Bill Harrelson
N5ZQ 320 1,700 hrs
N6ZQ  IV under construction
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Casa Grande, Arizona (KCGZ) to Orange, VA= (KOMH)
 
 
Our flight time:  9 hrs 20= mins,  nonstop 13,500, 15,500 and 17,500 ft.  &nb= sp;
distance flown 2,006 sm,=   
fuel used 49.9 gall= ons,  
average speed 211 mph  
actual fuel mileage 39.4 mpg= .   
49.9 gal avgas @ 3.75/gal =3D $18= 7.12  
fuel burn per person (2 people): = 24.9 gallons
cost per person: $93.56<= /FONT>
 
 
 
Yahoo maps driving directions shows the= following distance and driving time from Casa Grande to Orange.
This would require 3 hard days of driving= ,  2 nights in a hotel plus food.
Trip distance: 2351 mi   = ;
Time: 34 hrs 35 mins  
If your car got 30 miles/gal you would use 78.3 gall= ons.
78.3 gallons @ $2.50/gal =3D $195.75 plus hotels and= food.
fuel burn per person (2 people): 39.15
cost per person: $97.87 plus hotel and food.
 
 
 
The best airline schedule is UAL #952. No= nstop PHX - IAD other flights require intermediate stops and add 2-5= hours.
Flight time 4 hrs 19 mins.
Drive from Casa Grande to PHX airport 1 hr.
Arrive PHX 1 hour before= flight.
Arrive IAD unload and take shuttle to mai= n terminal, retrieve baggage  30 min.
Drive to Orange 1:30
Total elapsed time:  8:19
Estimated fuel burn: 27,000 lbs =3D 4,030= gallons.  (B-757, 3 class seating)
Fuel burn per person (110 seats): 36.6 gallons  (does not include fuel burne= d driving)
Cheapest fare: $418
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