X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:46:41 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web81508.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.199.148] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with SMTP id 3898051 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 13:37:00 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.199.148; envelope-from=kneadedpleasures@sbcglobal.net Received: (qmail 34731 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Oct 2009 17:36:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5Vwss5FIr+8aYDRCV1wqri1U8vbwz22s1mosR5cPLDvEdMKDRPOCZHpFMh6igy0W9YtD1J3aYkM43eUHatxqFsRQ8BnmWZi1GAXvrwpDar5PiUMe/XygEq3gzcw9LcUsCYsfuBHhSc2rLFKeyH1Yud1CqGuSEHXfY9kd6ySYXh4=; X-Original-Message-ID: <420994.33122.qm@web81508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: U.h2hAMVM1mh3YMdvhM5MQ0t04AGj0MtLMi6qS2HbPyMdYZPTFE- Received: from [71.145.156.213] by web81508.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 10:36:23 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 X-Original-Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 10:36:23 -0700 (PDT) From: kneaded pleasures Subject: Wingtip extensions for 320/360? X-Original-To: Lancair List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-483199704-1256405783=:33122" --0-483199704-1256405783=:33122 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dan:=A0 Having flown frequently in various 200 and 360 style of Lancairs,I = find copious advantages to the long wing and just a few mild disadvantages. =A0 The long wind advantages are: =A0=A0=A0 -slower takeoffs=20 =A0=A0=A0 -slower landings =A0=A0=A0 -less tire wear (takeoffs are shorter) =A0=A0=A0 -less brake wear (landings are shorter) =A0=A0=A0 -lower stall speed (57 mph in my 360 at gross) =A0=A0=A0 -all of above permit more options to use short fields =A0=A0=A0 -faster climb (more wing lift) =A0=A0=A0 -longer glide (more wing area) =A0=A0=A0 -faster speeds at all altitudes (lower angle of attack at all spe= eds) =A0=A0=A0 -slower lateral roll rate (makes chop and turns more comfortable = for pilot and passenger) =A0=A0=A0 -safer accident speeds (minimum landing speed is reduced) =A0=A0=A0 -accidents are more survivable (no one=A0would get=A0hurt at 10 m= ph) =A0=A0=A0 -traffic pattern flying is safer (slower speeds possible because = of lower stall speed) =A0=A0=A0 -time to climb to altitude is reduced =A0=A0=A0 -engine out glide is improved (more time to "think" and maneuver = to alternatives) =A0=A0=A0 -more fuel capacity=A0(I don't recommend this option; 1000 mile r= ange=A0is plenty) =A0 The several disadvantages are: =A0=A0=A0 -reduced maneuvering speeds (potential to overstress our quite st= rong wings) =A0=A0=A0 -reduced wing loading causes (nearly) imperceptible reduced comfo= rt in chop =A0 The above lists are not exhaustive and surely others will add or subtract. =A0 Remember that Lance endorsed the long-wing which suggests that=A0the longer= wings=A0don't challenge structural integrity=A0in our planes.=A0 Also reme= mber that it was not by accident that=A0Nature designed=A0long-distance bir= ds to have long, thin, narrow wings; they are simply more efficient and ene= rgy efficient=A0at flying.=A0 OTOH, if you fly gut-wrenching, severe "G's",= then long wings will not answer. =A0 Dan, I recommend that you not make those longer wingtips removable; you won= 't remove them after you fly them.=A0=A0 Greg Nelson =A0(LNC2) --0-483199704-1256405783=:33122 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dan:  Having flown frequently in various 200 and 360 style of Lan= cairs,I find copious advantages to the long wing and just a few mild disadv= antages.
 
The long wind advantages are:
    -slower takeoffs
    -slower landings
    -less tire wear (takeoffs are shorter)
    -less brake wear (landings are shorter)
    -lower stall speed (57 mph in my 360 at gross)
    -all of above permit more options to use short fiel= ds
    -faster climb (more wing lift)
    -longer glide (more wing area)
    -faster speeds at all altitudes (lower angle of att= ack at all speeds)
    -slower lateral roll rate (makes chop and turns mor= e comfortable for pilot and passenger)
    -safer accident speeds (minimum landing speed is re= duced)
    -accidents are more survivable (no one would g= et hurt at 10 mph)
    -traffic pattern flying is safer (slower speeds pos= sible because of lower stall speed)
    -time to climb to altitude is reduced
    -engine out glide is improved (more time to "think"= and maneuver to alternatives)
    -more fuel capacity (I don't recommend this op= tion; 1000 mile range is plenty)
 
The several disadvantages are:
    -reduced maneuvering speeds (potential to overstres= s our quite strong wings)
    -reduced wing loading causes (nearly) imperceptible= reduced comfort in chop
 
The above lists are not exhaustive and surely others will add or subtr= act.
 
Remember that Lance endorsed the long-wing which suggests that th= e longer wings don't challenge structural integrity in our planes= .  Also remember that it was not by accident that Nature designed=  long-distance birds to have long, thin, narrow wings; they are simply= more efficient and energy efficient at flying.  OTOH, if you fly= gut-wrenching, severe "G's", then long wings will not answer.
 
Dan, I recommend that you not make those longer wingtips removable; yo= u won't remove them after you fly them.   Greg Nelson  (LNC2= )
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