X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:53:15 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from blu0-omc3-s29.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.104] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3896766 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:52:23 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.116.104; envelope-from=randystuart@hotmail.com Received: from BLU0-SMTP17 ([65.55.116.72]) by blu0-omc3-s29.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:51:48 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [76.255.238.17] X-Originating-Email: [randystuart@hotmail.com] X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: randystuart@hotmail.com Received: from laptop ([76.255.238.17]) by BLU0-SMTP17.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:51:46 -0700 From: "Randy" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LNC2 Hydraulic Gear Operation Fix X-Original-Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:51:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2009 15:51:47.0117 (UTC) FILETIME=[BA0205D0:01CA53F8] Yes, this analysis IS incorrect. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob B." To: Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 6:49 AM Subject: [LML] Re: LNC2 Hydraulic Gear Operation Fix > Randy, > I have spent too much time trying to analyze your hydraulic "fix". > > You say "The ONLY way to approach this work around for the Oildyne pump > problem is to REMOVE the pressure from the Lo side. Relieving the > expanding > hydraulic fluid and put it back in the reservoir where it belongs!!!! > This type of "Fix" that simply bypasses the open Lo sensor and does not > relieve the expanding hydraulic fluid is insane and it's a ticking time > bomb > for gear failure!!!" > > In fact, it appears to me that your circuit DOES bypass the open low > pressure switch, which starts > the pump and ADDS pressure to the low side. > Then, when the high pressure switch drops out, it immediately reverses the > pump to restore the up pressure. > > If this analysis is incorrect, please let the group know. > > Bob Belshe EE '61 > Lancair 235/320 900+ hours > > PS: Why do you think so many Lancairs, including mine, have never > experienced this problem? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of > Randy > Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 10:38 AM > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Subject: [LML] Re: LNC2 Hydraulic Gear Operation Fix > > This looks like a relay that when it senses the Hi pressure switch being > open, while the gear is up, shorts and closes the Lo pressure circuit. > This > will bypass the Lo pressure sensor when the sensor opens from the > hydraulic > fluid expanding. This type of fix does not stop the hydraulic fluid from > expanding more and more as it heats up. The hydraulic fluid expansion can > damage the hydraulic system. I have monitored this problem and have seen > the > Lo side exceed 2000 psi during this heat expansion in the summer months. > If this relay sticks the Lo sensor circuit will be on all the time > regardless of the pressure sensor. > The ONLY way to approach this work around for the Oildyne pump problem is > to > REMOVE the pressure from the Lo side. Relieving the expanding hydraulic > fluid and put it back in the reservoir where it belongs!!!! > This type of "Fix" that simply bypasses the open Lo sensor and does not > relieve the expanding hydraulic fluid is insane and it's a ticking time > bomb > for gear failure!!! > > Randy Stuart > LNC-2 > > > > -- > For archives and unsub > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html >