X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:18:42 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from col0-omc3-s11.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.149] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3890010 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 18 Oct 2009 12:05:05 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.34.149; envelope-from=bill_kennedy_3@hotmail.com Received: from COL108-W19 ([65.55.34.136]) by col0-omc3-s11.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:04:28 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: bill_kennedy_3@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5a6df653-350d-48f1-b22c-cce1fdc5007f_" X-Originating-IP: [71.111.138.97] From: Bill Kennedy X-Original-To: Subject: RE: [LML] FW: [LML] Re: FAA RESCINDS INFO LETTER X-Original-Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:04:28 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2009 16:04:28.0686 (UTC) FILETIME=[ABDF7AE0:01CA500C] --_5a6df653-350d-48f1-b22c-cce1fdc5007f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's not so much the "angle of bank" as it is your angle of attack. Anythin= g but "ball" in the center at high angle of attack is asking for an ugly de= parture and perhaps a spin entry. I was told during a factory demo that the plane (Lancair 360) could be flow= n with "your feet on the floor". Very untrue in my experience. Active use o= f rudder is essential for coordinated flight in anything but the mildest tu= rns at cruise speed. If you want to make rudder use intuitive=2C do a lot of slow-flight practic= e. It won't take long. Bill Kennedy N42BK > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Date: Sun=2C 18 Oct 2009 11:42:37 -0400 > From: frederickmoreno@bigpond.com > Subject: [LML] FW: [LML] Re: FAA RESCINDS INFO LETTER >=20 > Does your hangar group think =20 > some of the accidents also involved lack of proper rudder control during = =20 > the turn=2C especially when they tighten the bank? >=20 > John Schroeder >=20 > Could be=2C but not discussed. However=2C it is=2C I think=2C generally = well known > that sometimes pilots like to lean on the rudder peddle to accelerate the > nose coming around=2C and this can cause major problems with the inside w= ing > calling it a day. It just adds to the sequence of mistakes. =20 >=20 > So maybe the last error is: >=20 > "The Lancair pilot=2C seeing he is overshooting the centreline=2C and kno= wing he > should not bank any steeper=2C unconsciously leans on the inside rudder p= eddle > to tighten up the turn to final. Stall spin crash burn." >=20 > Good point. Something else to watch for. >=20 > F >=20 >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.ht= ml = --_5a6df653-350d-48f1-b22c-cce1fdc5007f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's not so much the "angle of bank" as it is your angle of attack. Anythin= g but "ball" in the center at high angle of attack is asking for an ugly de= parture and perhaps a spin entry.

I was told during a factory demo t= hat the plane (Lancair 360) could be flown with "your feet on the floor". V= ery untrue in my experience. Active use of rudder is essential for coordina= ted flight in anything but the mildest turns at cruise speed.

If you= want to make rudder use intuitive=2C do a lot of slow-flight practice. It = won't take long.

Bill Kennedy
N42BK

>=3B To: lml@lancair= online.net
>=3B Date: Sun=2C 18 Oct 2009 11:42:37 -0400
>=3B From= : frederickmoreno@bigpond.com
>=3B Subject: [LML] FW: [LML] Re: FAA RE= SCINDS INFO LETTER
>=3B
>=3B Does your hangar group think
= >=3B some of the accidents also involved lack of proper rudder control du= ring
>=3B the turn=2C especially when they tighten the bank?
>= =3B
>=3B John Schroeder
>=3B
>=3B Could be=2C but not disc= ussed. However=2C it is=2C I think=2C generally well known
>=3B that = sometimes pilots like to lean on the rudder peddle to accelerate the
>= =3B nose coming around=2C and this can cause major problems with the inside= wing
>=3B calling it a day. It just adds to the sequence of mistakes= .
>=3B
>=3B So maybe the last error is:
>=3B
>=3B "= The Lancair pilot=2C seeing he is overshooting the centreline=2C and knowin= g he
>=3B should not bank any steeper=2C unconsciously leans on the in= side rudder peddle
>=3B to tighten up the turn to final. Stall spin c= rash burn."
>=3B
>=3B Good point. Something else to watch for.<= br>>=3B
>=3B F
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B --
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