X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:16:28 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from betsy.gendns5.com ([65.254.38.234] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTPS id 3877929 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:27:51 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.254.38.234; envelope-from=paul@tbm700.com Received: from s01060018f83ecf6d.cg.shawcable.net ([70.72.197.235]:54571 helo=[192.168.3.109]) by betsy.gendns5.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MvaID-00063m-3F for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:27:13 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LNC2 O-320D1F 1" Pull Back From: paul miller In-Reply-To: X-Original-Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:27:11 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Message-Id: References: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - betsy.gendns5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tbm700.com Lorn: I'm not an expert on the LOP for carb engines but it looks like =20= you are operating at peak EGT at 6.3 gph. That's probably the worst =20 place if I read the GAMI folks correctly. By closing the throttle 1 =20= inch you might be moving the peaks around a bit but the idea they =20 promote for carb engines is to operate WOT (wide open throttle) and =20 then LOP, say 50d LOP, to get the best efficiency. =46rom your iwork =20= graph, I would suggest that if you can adjust the fuel flows on that =20 hot cylinder then it appears to might be able to run down to the 5.9 =20 gph area (or lower) and hopefully smooth operation or with limited =20 vibration. The vibration at 6.3 gph doesn't surprise me because that =20= is peak on three cylinders and lean on the #3 cylinder. I would send =20= that into GAMI and see if they can add any useful information. But, =20= I think the main issue to resolve is running at 6.3 because I think =20 that is peak EGT according to your graph. If you can get down to =20 5.9 gph later without a lot of vibration I might look at extending =20 that graph by a small amount by reducing FF slightly to get a good =20 picture of where the speed and FF come out. good luck. Paul Miller Calgary On 2009-10-07, at 10:26 AM, Lorn H Olsen wrote: > Terrance, > > 1" manifold pressure less than full throttle. I wanted to see if on =20= > my carbureted engine, less than full throttle, would even out the =20 > EGTs. As you can see in the graph it did. > > In the past, when I ran the test at full throttle, cyls 1,2 & 3 are =20= > 50=B0F LOP by the time cyl 4 reaches peak. The engine is running so =20= > lean at this setting that I can't stand the vibration. > > With the throttle pulled back 1", all cyls are very close to peak at =20= > 6.3 GPH and the engine is still running smoothly. I am 5 KTS slower =20= > than at full throttle but have gone from 8.0 to 6.3 GPH. This is a =20 > 21% fuel savings for a 3% speed loss. > > In a 4 hour (676 NM) trip, it would take 7 minutes longer and save =20 > 6.8 GAL or about $28. > > You pays your money, you takes your choices. > > Lorn > > On Oct 7, 2009, at 10:21 AM, = > wrote: > >> Good. >> What does " 1" Pull Back" mean? >> >> I'm presently tuning my injectors to ... or tryign to. > > Download the GAMI Flight Test Data Form from: > > http://www.gami.com/gamijectors/leantest.php > >> Terrence >> L235/320 N211AL > > -- > Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, ASMEL, ASES, Comm, Inst > DynaComm, Corp., 248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.us > LNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,635 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan > > > -- > For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html