X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:34:13 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp-auth-05.mx.pitdc1.expedient.net ([206.210.66.138] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.15) with ESMTPS id 3764395 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:22:38 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.210.66.138; envelope-from=rpastusek@htii.com Received: from HTBOB001 (static-71-178-198-10.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.178.198.10]) by smtp-auth-05.mx.pitdc1.expedient.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 22A51E4572 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:22:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert Pastusek" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: =?us-ascii?Q?RE:_=5BLML=5D_90's_vintage_IV_kit?= X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:22:01 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <056601ca0828$770f0eb0$652d2c10$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoH8XCItUsaJardQSetEiJQwJ1o1gAMu7ZQ Content-Language: en-us Dennis Ramsey asked: ... I was wondering what the antennae model number recommendations were of IV owners and where you hid them. I assume the com is in the vertical and the Nav's in the wing tips, marker beacon in the wing root? GPS in the tail? I appreciate any help you can provide on your solution and how it is working for you. Thank you Dennis, I'll give this a go. Lance Niebauer spent particular attention to hide all the antennae, just as you outlined above...except that I don't think he considered GPS in those days(?). In any case, I built my IV-P with VOR antennae (2) in the fiberglass winglets, marker beacon antenna in the wing root, Comm antenna in the fiberglass vertical and a second whip comm antenna on the lower fuselage centerline. (BTW, I ran my 406 MHz ELT antenna up into the vertical as far separated from the comm antenna as I could.) I also installed a transponder antenna on the lower fuselage centerline. I provided metal ground planes for both lower fuselage mounted antennae. I later took out the left winglet VOR antenna in favor of a retractable landing light in that location (I also deleted the second VOR radio from my panel configuration). Although I use the remaining right winglet antenna primarily for ILS reception, and only use the VOR as a cross check to my dual GPS primary nav systems, it works well for both. Ditto for the marker beacon antenna...which I use even less. The comm antenna in the tail works, but it definitely doesn't provide the range of the whip antenna on the lower fuselage. I've confirmed similar experience with other Lancair builders. Both of my GPS antennae are mounted on top centerline of the fuselage; one between the door hinges, and the second 28" further aft. I'd recommend you not install GPS antennas "inside" anything. The signal is pretty weak, and even fiberglass degrades it a small amount. As this is a WAAS system, I need all the signal strength I can get. Although I have departed from Lance's golden rule to keep the airframe completely clean, I am very pleased with my configuration. Everything works, I don't have any interference with other components in the airplane nor among the radio systems, and I think this is a minimum drag configuration that provides excellent coverage for my several radios... If you are installing two radios like I did, I'd recommend you connect the lower whip antenna to your primary radio, and the internal tail antenna to the secondary radio. If you are single-radio, install a whip on the bottom; you'll appreciate the extra range...especially in a Lancair. Hope this helps. Bob