X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:32:09 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp105.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.253] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with SMTP id 3754796 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:30:54 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.200.253; envelope-from=wpedwards@hilgardhouse.com Received: (qmail 46627 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2009 22:30:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO your4dacd0ea75) (wpedwards@76.166.202.170 with login) by smtp105.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jul 2009 22:30:20 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: kniD.fKswBBF8QeradIzKYnHAI1VC8wy27IMWeNusi_zdSrRCVE1 X-YMail-OSG: qFUMrhYVM1nhO3MBFdz4OXj7Wy0IiZf7voGa.2Xk0LbeulQuhouDpgSrn.xDuC7XAUe7KOuwc7aEg7WJcY8jgQM4Yrzb76APRdpmQ9EVujBn6BUgNRf_7qHUO7nHAuM40nZHz5thklZuqy9WDqxS.5XNV.CyZwz7pdA9abGiTgU19D2tS69aV2Z4aMOJFtg9FZlFKd6diqAbLPm4vaUsE44sYPGV1dOiZGuGZpmxaP4u2BcUKDfqiioEgMqaScUT4.kR2FLGOkZGxY0LPLyOgIIL2WJjDxG8Cgbj9ej0ltmn_6hrDfqhAG1aQqC2 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Bill Edwards" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] L IVP on jacks X-Original-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:30:13 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <004b01ca0340$53a19890$fae4c9b0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004C_01CA0305.A742C090" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoDOvb5HNSZeG4DSj6yi5wW4P89mAABIloA Content-Language: en-us X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090711-0, 07/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01CA0305.A742C090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Art, the Lancair inspector put a heavy bench with tires under the tail. It was pretty well supported I thought. However, when I personally the plane up on jacks in my hanger, I used a large engine hoist and held the tail up with a heavy duty horse belly band with a test strength of several thousand pounds. It was easy to jack up and let down, and if worse came to worse the plane would stay in the air without the wing jacks at all. I believe that even though I provided assistance, Lancair was liable because they were in charge of the plane. However.if in the unlikely event that I should ever be involved in a Lancair inspection again, I wouldn't come within 20 miles of the event. Bill From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Art Bertolina Sent: 07/12/2009 2:52 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] L IVP on jacks Bill sorry to hear of your misfortune with the inspection. Something that may be of help for those putting their planes on jacks in the future. Along with the jacks and engine hoist I use a tail support that stops the tail from swinging back and forth( which makes it more probable the plane will come off the jacks). The support consists of two 10' 2x4s with a 2' piece across the top to form a T put carpet on the cross member, an eye screw 2' from the bottom of each T. Take a cargo strap( I use a second for backup) to connect the eye screws, put the top of the T under either side of the horizontal stab. As the plane is jack up use the cargo strap to keep the T's snug under the stab. This setup will keep the tail from swinging back and forth. Don't forget to loosen this as you lower the plane. Bill yours is the only experience I have heard about the inspection, not a store to instill confidence. If you have an inspection and don't provide any assistance would they accept responsibility for damage and repair. Art ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01CA0305.A742C090 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Art, the Lancair inspector put a heavy bench with tires = under the tail.  It was pretty well supported I thought.  However, = when I personally the plane up on jacks in my hanger,  I used a large = engine hoist and held the tail up with a heavy duty horse belly band with a test = strength of several thousand pounds.  It was easy to jack up and let down, and = if worse came to worse the plane would stay in the air without the wing = jacks at all.

 

I believe that even though I provided assistance,  = Lancair was liable because they were in charge of the plane.  = However…if in the unlikely event that I should ever be involved in a Lancair = inspection again,  I wouldn't come within 20 miles of the event.  = Bill

 

From:= Lancair = Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Art = Bertolina
Sent: 07/12/2009 2:52 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] L IVP on jacks

 

Bill

sorry to hear of your misfortune with the inspection.

Something that may be of help for those putting their

planes on jacks in the future. Along with the jacks and engine hoist I use a = tail support that stops the tail from

swinging back and forth( which makes it more probable

the plane will come off the jacks). The support = consists

of two 10'  2x4s with a 2' piece across the top to form = a

T put carpet on the cross member, an eye screw 2' = from

the bottom of each T. Take a cargo strap( I use a = second

for backup) to connect the eye screws, put the top of the =

T under either side of the horizontal stab. As the = plane is

jack up use the cargo strap to keep the T's snug under the =

stab. This setup will keep the tail from swinging back = and

forth. Don't forget to loosen this as you lower the plane. Bill =

yours is the only experience I have heard about the inspection, not a = store to instill confidence. If you have an

inspection and don't provide any assistance would they

accept responsibility for damage and repair.

Art&nb= sp;    

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