X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:32:09 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp-auth-05.mx.pitdc1.expedient.net ([206.210.66.138] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 3754825 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:23:30 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.210.66.138; envelope-from=rpastusek@htii.com Received: from HTBOB001 (static-71-178-198-10.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.178.198.10]) by smtp-auth-05.mx.pitdc1.expedient.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3625AE4711 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:22:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert Pastusek" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] L IVP on jacks X-Original-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:22:53 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <03de01ca0350$10768430$31638c90$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_03DF_01CA032E.8964E430" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoDOv64A+FomYK0RtWIeeGXbFkZaQAEm1yA Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03DF_01CA032E.8964E430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill & Art, I have also been concerned with jacking the airplane high enough to = operate the gear=85having twice had the wheels hit the concrete during = retraction because I didn=92t jack it high enough. Fortunately, I tried a manual extension first each time, so no harm/no foul, but like Art, I built a support to stabilize the tail. It consists of telescoping pieces of 1=94 = & 1 =BC=94 iron pipe (they telescope nicely with little wobble) mounted with = a flange to a wooden cross=85welded steel would be better. The smaller = pipe is notched on the top end to accept the tail eye bolt, and drilled for a retaining pin. Both pipes are drilled to accept a bolt for height adjustment. After jacking the mains to the proper height, I extend the = tail support as needed, then lift the engine hoist/nose just a bit to put = some weight on the tail support. Makes the airplane very stable on jacks; = much less scary to climb in and out! Main caution is to be sure to remove = the tail support before starting to lower the airplane! =20 Bob =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Art Bertolina Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:52 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] L IVP on jacks =20 Bill sorry to hear of your misfortune with the inspection. Something that may be of help for those putting their planes on jacks in the future. Along with the jacks and engine hoist I = use a tail support that stops the tail from swinging back and forth( which makes it more probable the plane will come off the jacks). The support consists of two 10' 2x4s with a 2' piece across the top to form a T put carpet on the cross member, an eye screw 2' from the bottom of each T. Take a cargo strap( I use a second for backup) to connect the eye screws, put the top of the=20 T under either side of the horizontal stab. As the plane is jack up use the cargo strap to keep the T's snug under the=20 stab. This setup will keep the tail from swinging back and forth. Don't forget to loosen this as you lower the plane. Bill=20 yours is the only experience I have heard about the inspection, not a = store to instill confidence. If you have an=20 inspection and don't provide any assistance would they accept responsibility for damage and repair. Art =20 ------=_NextPart_000_03DF_01CA032E.8964E430 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Bill & Art,

I have also been concerned with jacking the airplane high = enough to operate the gear…having twice had the wheels hit the concrete = during retraction because I didn’t jack it high enough. Fortunately, I = tried a manual extension first each time, so no harm/no foul, but like Art, I = built a support to stabilize the tail. It consists of telescoping pieces of 1” = & 1 =BC” iron pipe (they telescope nicely with little wobble) mounted with a = flange to a wooden cross…welded steel would be better. The smaller pipe is = notched on the top end to accept the tail eye bolt, and drilled for a retaining = pin. Both pipes are drilled to accept a bolt for height adjustment. After jacking = the mains to the proper height, I extend the tail support as needed, then = lift the engine hoist/nose just a bit to put some weight on the tail support. = Makes the airplane very stable on jacks; much less scary to climb in and out!=A0 = Main caution is to be sure to remove the tail support before starting to = lower the airplane!

Bob

From:= Lancair = Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Art = Bertolina
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:52 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] L IVP on jacks

Bill

sorry to hear of your misfortune with the inspection.

Something that may be of help for those putting their

planes on jacks in the future. Along with the jacks and engine hoist I use a = tail support that stops the tail from

swinging back and forth( which makes it more probable

the plane will come off the jacks). The support = consists

of two 10' 2x4s with a 2' piece across the top to form = a

T put carpet on the cross member, an eye screw 2' = from

the bottom of each T. Take a cargo strap( I use a = second

for backup) to connect the eye screws, put the top of the =

T under either side of the horizontal stab. As the = plane is

jack up use the cargo strap to keep the T's snug under the =

stab. This setup will keep the tail from swinging back = and

forth. Don't forget to loosen this as you lower the plane. Bill =

yours is the only experience I have heard about the inspection, not a = store to instill confidence. If you have an

inspection and don't provide any assistance would they

accept responsibility for damage and repair.

Art&nb= sp;

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