X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:05:58 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de ([217.72.192.221] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3753880 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:23:59 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=217.72.192.221; envelope-from=jschredl@web.de Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CF110A3BD6A for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:23:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [91.12.104.180] (helo=HANSCore2Duo) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.110 #277) id 1MPj6R-0008Vv-00 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:23:23 +0200 Reply-To: From: "Johannes Schredl" X-Original-To: References: Subject: AW: [LML] Belly Landing L-360 Video X-Original-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:23:20 +0200 Organization: --- X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003F_01CA0276.32B74AF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoCEACKwbKzPBTbSNm21vRMxtuLIgAUNP6g In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: jschredl@web.de X-Sender: jschredl@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/yPB/0Q+LcOqVoiGs3RbLNHC+/Uvk86YY48kPU YqkDqil771B8F4TG3xK2D4RyouoM2b1Jp9UAkyIK2EI/VJTbjL 0rQzqR2E4= This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01CA0276.32B74AF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fellows, =20 I know the owner of the Lancair and spoke to him today: - as already mentioned: he replaced the screws of the hinge of the nose = gear door; the screws he used was too long (about 1/4" beyond ancour nut) - hi did no gear check after replacing the srews :-(( - the hydraulic pressure was able to retract the gear (high power); = there was scratches of the screws at the nose gear fork - while lowering the gear, the nose gear was not able to "overcome" the screw jam; the low pressure switch shut off hydraulic - any manouver like pulling high g etc. were not successful and the test pilot decided to land on grass with all gear in (the airfield EDML has a 3000ft concrete and parallel a 3000 ft grass strip) - watch the video to = see the landing - in my opinion a perfect job! - no injury to any person!!! - damages: - two propeller blades (wood MT prop) brake off - lower cowling serious damaged - XPDR antenna at belly broken off - scratches / damage to the rudder - nothing else!!! : no damage to the flaps, no damage to injector, = nearly no damage to exhaust system, nearly no damage to the belly (only slight scratches) -> my opinion: it was the right decision to use the grass strip with all gears up and flaps about +20=B0! This would be my favorite configuration = in any case of an emergency landing (no engine, gear problems etc.) too! = Any other configuration like "no gear on concrete"; "main gear only on concrete"; "main gear only on grass" would cause more risk and damage! =20 Johannes=20 D-ESWS LNC2 =20 _____ =20 Von: John F. Herminghaus [mailto:catignano@tele2.it]=20 Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Juli 2009 13:50 An: lml@lancaironline.net Betreff: Re: [LML] Belly Landing L-360 Video The cause of the accident was that the owner, who I know, replaced the screws in the nose gear door with stainless screws which were longer = than the ones they replaced. As a result the nose gear retracted, but would = not extend. =20 Tom McNerney ha scritto:=20 Not to flood this place with youtube links, but this is something I = think everyone should see. Check out the related videos of the plane on the ground before/after the nose gear failure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkEWWQsWThxs Tom -- For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html =20 ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01CA0276.32B74AF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Fellows,
 
I know the owner of the Lancair and spoke to = him=20 today:
- as already mentioned: he replaced the = screws of the=20 hinge of the nose gear door; the screws he used was too long (about = 1/4"=20 beyond ancour nut)
- hi did no gear check after = replacing the srews=20 :-((
- the hydraulic pressure was able to retract = the gear=20 (high power); there was scratches of the screws at the nose gear=20 fork
- while lowering the gear, the nose gear was = not able=20 to "overcome" the screw jam; the low pressure switch shut off=20 hydraulic
- any manouver like pulling high g etc. = were not=20 successful and the test pilot decided to land on grass with = all gear=20 in (the airfield EDML has a 3000ft concrete and parallel a = 3000 ft=20 grass strip) - watch the video to see the landing - in my = opinion a=20 perfect job!
- no injury to any = person!!!
- damages:
   - two propeller blades = (wood  MT=20 prop) brake off
   - lower cowling serious=20 damaged
   - XPDR antenna at = belly broken=20 off
   - scratches / damage to the=20 rudder
   - nothing else!!! : no = damage to the=20 flaps, no damage to injector, nearly no damage to exhaust system, nearly = no=20 damage to the belly (only slight scratches)
-> my opinion: it was the right decision = to use the=20 grass strip with all gears up and flaps about +20=B0! This would be my = favorite=20 configuration in any case of an emergency landing (no engine, gear = problems=20 etc.) too! Any other configuration like "no gear on = concrete"; "main gear=20 only on concrete"; "main gear only on grass" would cause more risk = and=20 damage!
 
Johannes
D-ESWS LNC2
 
Von: = John F. Herminghaus=20 [mailto:catignano@tele2.it]
Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Juli 2009=20 13:50
An: lml@lancaironline.net
Betreff: Re: [LML] = Belly=20 Landing L-360 Video

The cause of the accident was that the owner, who I know, = replaced=20 the screws in the nose gear door with stainless screws which were longer = than=20 the ones they replaced.  As a result the nose gear retracted, but = would not=20 extend. 

Tom McNerney ha scritto:=20 
Not to flood this place with youtube links, but this is =
something I think everyone should see.  Check out the related =
videos of the plane on the ground before/after the nose gear failure.

http://www.youtube.=
com/watch?v=3DkEWWQsWThxs

Tom

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