X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:19:31 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [64.12.137.7] (HELO imo-m26.mail.aol.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3753847 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:15:32 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.137.7; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imo-m26.mail.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN2-34a58f2293c3; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:12:25 -0400 Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id q.d18.4aa2a678 (48600) for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:14:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:18:10 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Belly landing 360 X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1247343490" X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.137 -------------------------------1247343490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ian, My experience was similar. Mild hypoxia - brain functioning like Swiss Cheese - Did everything right but the gear check. Sufficient headwind to land down hill at Sedona, AZ - then prop tick-tick-ticking against pavement. Cut the power and finished the landing (no attempt to do something crazy, like go-around). Beautiful slide in front of the restaurant and drift to the right stopping short of the taxiway light. Unfortunately the runway was very rough, grinding down the cowl, belly, exhaust pipes, flap TE and giant chrome pitot. What the heck, time to rebuild the engine anyway. The damage was a bit deeper than yours, but the main spar was untouched. Like you, I had no "in motion" insurance. I have insurance now and it has protected me from another gear up landing............................. Grayhawk In a message dated 7/11/2009 2:42:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ian.crowe@sympatico.ca writes: Yes I did it and it was a total non event in terms of the actual landing. I was on track to do an absolute greaser of a landing, slight X wind from the left, nicely aligned with the centre line and I heard this bang/bang/bang noise. I had enough time to reflect "flat tire" and then I was on the ground. I realised what had happened and had time to kill mags, master switch and fuel before we stopped. The aircraft had drifted to right of centre line and the nose was pointing about 20degrees to the right. You could see where the propellor tip had gouged the runway, right on the centre line. I estimate the stopping distance as 400' from the first asphalt divot the propellor made. I was doing my last ride for a charity air display day and the fire trucks were on the field as part of their display. They were there very quickly and I had to plead with them not to cover everything in foam!! Damage was confined to the belly pan, bottom of the pitot head, due to the left wing being down and into wind, bottom cowl only required some body filler and repaint. The bottom of the rudder was scrubbed through for about 2" long. No big deal there. Engine tear down and a new propellor were the heart breakers. No insurance. My passenger did not seem to initially realise what had happened. Apart from the financial aspect it was a non event. However I hate to think what the result would have been if it had been a rough landing. Ian B. Crowe LNC 2 C-FKRO **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823300x1201398714/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JulystepsfooterNO62) -------------------------------1247343490 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ian,
 
My experience was similar.  Mild hypoxia - brain functioning lik= e Swiss Cheese - Did everything right but the gear check.  Sufficient= headwind to land down hill at Sedona, AZ - then prop tick-tick-t= icking against pavement.  Cut the power and finished the landing (no attempt= to do something crazy, like go-around).  Beautiful slide in front of the restaurant and drift to the right stopping short of the taxiway light.&nbs= p;
 
Unfortunately the runway was very rough, grinding down the cowl,= belly, exhaust pipes, flap TE and giant chrome pitot.  What the= heck, time to rebuild the engine anyway.  The damage was a bit deeper than= yours, but the main spar was untouched.  Like you, I had no "in motion" insurance.  I have insurance now and it has protected me from an= other gear up landing............................. 
 
Grayhawk
 
In a message dated 7/11/2009 2:42:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ian.crowe@sympatico.ca writes:
Yes I did it and it was a total non eve= nt in terms of the actual landing.
 
I was on track to do an absolute grease= r of a landing,  slight X wind from the left, nicely aligned with the cent= re line and I heard this bang/bang/bang noise.  I had enough time to= reflect "flat tire" and then I was on the ground.  I realised what had happ= ened and had time to kill mags, master switch and fuel before we stopped.&nbs= p; The aircraft had drifted to right of centre line and the nose was pointing= about 20degrees to the right.  You could see where the propellor tip = ;had gouged the runway, right on the centre line.  I estimate the stoppi= ng distance as 400' from the first asphalt divot the propellor made.=
 
I was doing my last ride for a charity= air display day and the fire trucks were on the field as part of their display.  They were there very quickly and I had to plead with them= not to cover everything in foam!!
 
Damage was confined to the belly pan,= bottom of the pitot head, due to the left wing being down and into wind,  bot= tom cowl only required some body filler and repaint.  The bottom of the= rudder was scrubbed through for about 2" long.  No big deal there.
 
Engine tear down and a new propellor we= re the heart breakers. No insurance.
 
My passenger did not seem to initially= realise what had happened.
 
Apart from the financial aspect it was= a non event.  However I hate to think what the result would have been if= it had been a rough landing.
 
Ian B.  Crowe
LNC 2 C-FKRO

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