X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:02:05 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp-auth-01.mx.pitdc1.expedient.net ([206.210.66.134] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 3747442 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:35:38 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.210.66.134; envelope-from=rpastusek@htii.com Received: from HTBOB001 (71-223-231-192.phnx.qwest.net [71.223.231.192]) by smtp-auth-01.mx.pitdc1.expedient.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F415384062 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 01:35:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert Pastusek" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Now for something completely different X-Original-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 01:34:59 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <071601c9fec4$ad50ab40$07f201c0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0717_01C9FEA3.263F0B40" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acn94YZVg2rGt87bRUOr9cH5ak+D2AA4oa/Q Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0717_01C9FEA3.263F0B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many thanks for this tip. Just finished my condition inspection, but will go back and look at this again.and add to the condition inspection checklist we made up for the LOBO workshop/library last month. Bob From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Dan Reagan Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 10:29 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Now for something completely different I had a couple of cracks in the engine mount that could only be detected by a trained eye. There was just a little wrinkle in the paint. There was never any shimmy or other symptoms. I happened to be in Redmond at the time and took it over to Lancair and their welder rewelded it and welded gussets in the "corners". It saved me from moving the engine. I was told that there is no way it is going to crack now. It is such a simple fix until I don't know why they are not made with the gussets from the start. Maybe they are now, because he already had the gussets made up. The point is, to look at the paint on the welds very closely. If there is the least wrinkle, investigate further. Dan Reagan IVP 650 hours and holding ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Kennedy To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 8:36 AM Subject: RE: [LML] Now for something completely different Makes me wonder if it wasn't an engine mount problem instead of the nose strut. That's quite a nose wheel shimmy. We're all happy for you that it wasn't worse. > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:40:50 -0400 > From: ptackabury@aol.com > Subject: [LML] Now for something completely different > > How 'bout something re: LIV rather than personal etiquette, scripture, > other's misfortunes and the Hanoi Hilton. As the keenly aware out there > may remember, I have a LIV that was, up until 23 Jun a screaming joy > with no problems. And then while landing in Fort Morgan, CO to visit my > brother, I had a nose wheel shimmy that destroyed the motor mount > (broken in at least 4 places), strut, fork, trailing links and over > center gas spring, along with associated hardware and the bottom > cowling. The only good news was the strut didn't fold, although I still > do not know how it remained upright. Michelle and Kim at Lancair were > fabulous and had replacement hardware to me on Friday the 26th. My > brother and I have been rebuilding ever since. We have now replaced the > main parts and are rigging the engine to fit the cowling in hopes of a > flight back to CA (home/Chino) this weekend where the final redo will > take place. > Some observations: I think the strut was OK--it was about 6 years old > but looked fine. I now have the new strut Lancair is building so maybe > something was wrong with the old ECCO model. The engine mount just > disintegrated so maybe it had some cracks i missed during the Jan > annual--certainly that will be a major focus in all future cowl > removals. So learn what you will from this msg--question as you wish > and I will offer what I can. But be assured this incident had nothing > to do with my dual LSE ignition system... > paul, N94PT, reluctant rebuilder > > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0717_01C9FEA3.263F0B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Many thanks for this tip. Just finished my condition = inspection, but will go back and look at this again…and add to the condition = inspection checklist we made up for the LOBO workshop/library last = month.


Bob

 

From:= Lancair = Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Dan Reagan
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 10:29 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Now for something completely = different

 

I had a couple of cracks in the engine mount that could only be = detected by a trained eye.  There was just a little wrinkle in the paint.  = There was never any shimmy or other symptoms.  I happened to be in = Redmond at the time and took it over to Lancair and their welder rewelded it and welded gussets in the "corners".  It saved me from moving the engine.  I was told that there is no way it is = going to crack now.  It is such a simple fix until I don't know why they = are not made with the gussets from the start.  Maybe they are now, because = he already had the gussets made up.

 =

The point is, to look at the paint on the welds very closely.  If there = is the least wrinkle, investigate further.

 =

Dan Reagan=

IVP 650 hours and holding=

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill Kennedy =

Sent:<= /b> Saturday, = July 04, 2009 8:36 AM

Subject: RE: [LML] = Now for something completely different

 =

Makes me wonder if it wasn't an engine mount problem instead of the nose = strut. That's quite a nose wheel shimmy. We're all happy for you that it wasn't = worse.

> To: lml@lancaironline.net
> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:40:50 -0400
> From: ptackabury@aol.com
> Subject: [LML] Now for something completely different
>
> How 'bout something re: LIV rather than personal etiquette, = scripture,
> other's misfortunes and the Hanoi Hilton. As the keenly aware out = there
> may remember, I have a LIV that was, up until 23 Jun a screaming = joy
> with no problems. And then while landing in Fort Morgan, CO to = visit my
> brother, I had a nose wheel shimmy that destroyed the motor mount =
> (broken in at least 4 places), strut, fork, trailing links and over =
> center gas spring, along with associated hardware and the bottom =
> cowling. The only good news was the strut didn't fold, although I = still
> do not know how it remained upright. Michelle and Kim at Lancair = were
> fabulous and had replacement hardware to me on Friday the 26th. My =
> brother and I have been rebuilding ever since. We have now replaced = the
> main parts and are rigging the engine to fit the cowling in hopes = of a
> flight back to CA (home/Chino) this weekend where the final redo = will
> take place.
> Some observations: I think the strut was OK--it was about 6 years = old
> but looked fine. I now have the new strut Lancair is building so = maybe
> something was wrong with the old ECCO model. The engine mount just =
> disintegrated so maybe it had some cracks i missed during the Jan =
> annual--certainly that will be a major focus in all future cowl =
> removals. So learn what you will from this msg--question as you = wish
> and I will offer what I can. But be assured this incident had = nothing
> to do with my dual LSE ignition system...
> paul, N94PT, reluctant rebuilder
>
> --
> For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html

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