X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:28:38 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-out2.fuse.net ([216.68.8.171] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3745858 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:28:27 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.68.8.171; envelope-from=dreagan@fuse.net X-Original-Return-Path: X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=8zwkkZbLl4AA:10 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=O5ZkaUpKhRSRtnyKUSoA:9 a=zkTdyhGh6I3i-W9DDWUA:7 a=l0vVAadv3XfAQhyL6IoM9WyfsO8A:4 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=cnQrkmucPRcF4zefNQAA:9 a=tMQ4p_SQd6k1LA93YrkA:7 a=8zTHKgp1xpTsuKn9NFKfZYtUwVcA:4 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: gwout2 smtp.mail=dreagan@fuse.net; spf=unknown Received-SPF: error (gwout2: 208.102.196.40 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [208.102.196.40] ([208.102.196.40:50404] helo=D45LWMF1) by gwout2 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.37 r(28805/28810M)) with ESMTP id 6F/31-09581-8F6315A4; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:27:53 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <005401c9fdc8$34484d90$fdc8a8c0@D45LWMF1> From: "Dan Reagan" X-Original-To: , "Bill Kennedy" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Now for something completely different X-Original-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:27:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0051_01C9FDA6.AD0E3E00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C9FDA6.AD0E3E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had a couple of cracks in the engine mount that could only be detected = by a trained eye. There was just a little wrinkle in the paint. There = was never any shimmy or other symptoms. I happened to be in Redmond at = the time and took it over to Lancair and their welder rewelded it and = welded gussets in the "corners". It saved me from moving the engine. I = was told that there is no way it is going to crack now. It is such a = simple fix until I don't know why they are not made with the gussets = from the start. Maybe they are now, because he already had the gussets = made up. The point is, to look at the paint on the welds very closely. If there = is the least wrinkle, investigate further. Dan Reagan IVP 650 hours and holding ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Kennedy=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 8:36 AM Subject: RE: [LML] Now for something completely different Makes me wonder if it wasn't an engine mount problem instead of the = nose strut. That's quite a nose wheel shimmy. We're all happy for you = that it wasn't worse. > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:40:50 -0400 > From: ptackabury@aol.com > Subject: [LML] Now for something completely different >=20 > How 'bout something re: LIV rather than personal etiquette, = scripture,=20 > other's misfortunes and the Hanoi Hilton. As the keenly aware out = there=20 > may remember, I have a LIV that was, up until 23 Jun a screaming joy = > with no problems. And then while landing in Fort Morgan, CO to visit = my=20 > brother, I had a nose wheel shimmy that destroyed the motor mount=20 > (broken in at least 4 places), strut, fork, trailing links and over=20 > center gas spring, along with associated hardware and the bottom=20 > cowling. The only good news was the strut didn't fold, although I = still=20 > do not know how it remained upright. Michelle and Kim at Lancair = were=20 > fabulous and had replacement hardware to me on Friday the 26th. My=20 > brother and I have been rebuilding ever since. We have now replaced = the=20 > main parts and are rigging the engine to fit the cowling in hopes of = a=20 > flight back to CA (home/Chino) this weekend where the final redo = will=20 > take place. > Some observations: I think the strut was OK--it was about 6 years = old=20 > but looked fine. I now have the new strut Lancair is building so = maybe=20 > something was wrong with the old ECCO model. The engine mount just=20 > disintegrated so maybe it had some cracks i missed during the Jan=20 > annual--certainly that will be a major focus in all future cowl=20 > removals. So learn what you will from this msg--question as you wish = > and I will offer what I can. But be assured this incident had = nothing=20 > to do with my dual LSE ignition system... > paul, N94PT, reluctant rebuilder >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C9FDA6.AD0E3E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had a couple of cracks in the engine = mount that=20 could only be detected by a trained eye.  There was just a little = wrinkle=20 in the paint.  There was never any shimmy or other symptoms.  = I=20 happened to be in Redmond at the time and took it over to Lancair = and their=20 welder rewelded it and welded gussets in the "corners".  It = saved me=20 from moving the engine.  I was told that there is no way it is = going=20 to crack now.  It is such a simple fix until I don't know why they = are not=20 made with the gussets from the start.  Maybe they are now, because = he=20 already had the gussets made up.
 
The point is, to look at the paint on the welds = very=20 closely.  If there is the least wrinkle, investigate = further.
 
Dan Reagan
IVP 650 hours and holding
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bill Kennedy
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 = 8:36=20 AM
Subject: RE: [LML] Now for = something=20 completely different

Makes me wonder if it wasn't an engine mount problem = instead of=20 the nose strut. That's quite a nose wheel shimmy. We're all happy for = you that=20 it wasn't worse.

> To: lml@lancaironline.net
> = Date:=20 Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:40:50 -0400
> From: ptackabury@aol.com
> = Subject: [LML]=20 Now for something completely different
>
> How 'bout = something=20 re: LIV rather than personal etiquette, scripture,
> other's=20 misfortunes and the Hanoi Hilton. As the keenly aware out there =
> may=20 remember, I have a LIV that was, up until 23 Jun a screaming joy =
> with=20 no problems. And then while landing in Fort Morgan, CO to visit my =
>=20 brother, I had a nose wheel shimmy that destroyed the motor mount =
>=20 (broken in at least 4 places), strut, fork, trailing links and over =
>=20 center gas spring, along with associated hardware and the bottom =
>=20 cowling. The only good news was the strut didn't fold, although I = still=20
> do not know how it remained upright. Michelle and Kim at = Lancair were=20
> fabulous and had replacement hardware to me on Friday the = 26th. My=20
> brother and I have been rebuilding ever since. We have now = replaced=20 the
> main parts and are rigging the engine to fit the cowling = in hopes=20 of a
> flight back to CA (home/Chino) this weekend where the = final redo=20 will
> take place.
> Some observations: I think the strut = was=20 OK--it was about 6 years old
> but looked fine. I now have the = new=20 strut Lancair is building so maybe
> something was wrong with = the old=20 ECCO model. The engine mount just
> disintegrated so maybe it = had some=20 cracks i missed during the Jan
> annual--certainly that will be = a major=20 focus in all future cowl
> removals. So learn what you will = from this=20 msg--question as you wish
> and I will offer what I can. But be = assured=20 this incident had nothing
> to do with my dual LSE ignition=20 system...
> paul, N94PT, reluctant rebuilder
>
> = --
>=20 For archives and unsub=20 http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html
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