X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:28:38 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-out1.fuse.net ([216.68.8.175] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3745863 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:37:03 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.68.8.175; envelope-from=dreagan@fuse.net X-Original-Return-Path: X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=mSI1VOFVgzE0BiN864UA:9 a=Zbr4R-nvZrvUOk2mctwA:7 a=P1aemPk3iU_6CHBq7J158dbEqQwA:4 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=LUGdSHaYEaYA:10 a=jl1a36YQ91yINOm_:21 a=uNttegNBgWcOvCxF:21 a=fv50BRHzAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=JOf1bfVB31y0Tj4P7lcA:9 a=sbInoSQQdv2XSJ4JNEgA:7 a=uPTggtdUcx2soC3Oi8YzvFk9n5gA:4 a=ORsapS7FR98A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: gwout1 smtp.mail=dreagan@fuse.net; spf=unknown Received-SPF: error (gwout1: 208.102.196.40 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [208.102.196.40] ([208.102.196.40:50412] helo=D45LWMF1) by gwout1 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.37 r(28805/28810M)) with ESMTP id A1/14-24823-DF8315A4; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:36:29 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <006a01c9fdc9$6821a8e0$fdc8a8c0@D45LWMF1> From: "Dan Reagan" X-Original-To: , "Dr Andre Katz" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Gear Up X-Original-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:36:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9FDA7.E0FA8510" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9FDA7.E0FA8510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The engine did a fine job right up to the point of finding safety wire = in the oil filter. Further investigation found a broken bolt on the = rear of the crank shaft. The engine showed no other problems at all. Check the oil filter! Dan Reagan IVP 650 hours and holding ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dr Andre Katz=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Gear Up what happened to your current engine? 650 hrs is low time did you fly lean of peak? anres -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Dan Reagan To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 7:36:19 AM Subject: [LML] Re: Gear Up After having an "almost", I did not fly again until I put a gear = warning in the airplane. Distractions are hell (along with age I guess) = and don't think for a minute that Chelton gives a "check gear" under all = circumstances. For less than $100 and a lot of thinking I now have a = speed switch in the pitot system which turns on a light and horn any = time I am below 113 knots and the gear is up. This speed is adjustable. = Aircraft Spruce has the relay board and speed switch. It works quite = well. If anyone is interested I can get the part number. I am sure = there are other ways to accomplish the same thing but this has worked = well for the last 200 or so hours. =20 Dan Reagan IVP 650 hours and installing a new engine- hope to fly in 3 weeks ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dan Ballin=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:09 PM Subject: Gear Up It seems like we have exhausted this gear up incident, except that = the object and purpose of the LML should be education and, as some have = pointed out, to learn from our mistakes. So I guess the question is = what did we learn? Hard to know without all of the facts Most of us = deal with it with checklists and technology, but these are not = infallible, and it seems like the gear up issue never goes away. So I come back to does anyone have ideas on how to keep this from = happening? Does anyone have a better mousetrap. Thoughts on how to = set up gear warning systems - both Chelton and MVP seem to do this well, = how to never forget to use the checklist even when distracted - this is = a hard one for me. Dan Ballin Leg2 #286 ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9FDA7.E0FA8510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The engine did a fine job right up to = the point of=20 finding safety wire in the oil filter.  Further investigation found = a=20 broken bolt on the rear of the crank shaft.  The engine showed no = other=20 problems at all.
 
Check the oil filter!
 
Dan Reagan
IVP 650 hours and holding
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dr Andre = Katz=20
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 = 7:12=20 PM
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Gear = Up

what happened to your current engine?
650 hrs is low time did you fly lean of peak?
anres

From: Dan Reagan = <dreagan@fuse.net>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 = 7:36:19=20 AM
Subject: [LML] = Re: Gear=20 Up

After having an "almost", I did not = fly again=20 until I put a gear warning in the airplane.  Distractions are = hell (along=20 with age I guess) and don't think for a minute that Chelton gives a = "check=20 gear" under all circumstances.  For less than $100 and a lot of = thinking=20 I now have a speed switch in the pitot system which turns on a light = and horn=20 any time I am below 113 knots and the gear is up.  This speed is=20 adjustable.  Aircraft Spruce has the relay board and speed = switch. =20 It works quite well. If anyone is interested I can get the part = number. =20 I am sure there are other ways to accomplish the same thing but this = has=20 worked well for the last 200 or so hours. 
 
Dan Reagan
IVP 650 hours and installing a new = engine- hope=20 to fly in 3 weeks
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Ballin =
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 = 7:09=20 PM
Subject: Gear Up

It seems like we have exhausted this gear up = incident, except=20 that the object and purpose of the LML should be education and, as = some have=20 pointed out, to learn from our mistakes.  So I guess the = question is=20 what did we learn?  Hard to know without all of the = facts  =20 Most of us deal with it with checklists and technology, but these = are not=20 infallible, and it seems like the gear up issue never goes = away.

So I=20 come back to does anyone have ideas on how to keep this from=20 happening?  Does anyone have a better mousetrap.   = Thoughts on how=20 to set up gear warning systems - both Chelton and MVP seem to do = this well,=20 how to never forget to use the checklist even when distracted - this = is a=20 hard one for me.

Dan Ballin
Leg2 = #286
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