X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:12:10 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta21.charter.net ([216.33.127.81] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3744804 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 11:17:01 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.33.127.81; envelope-from=troneill@charter.net Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.10]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090704151620.ZRSW3344.mta21.charter.net@imp10> for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 11:16:20 -0400 Received: from axs ([75.132.241.174]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id BrGL1c00H3mUFT705rGL5w; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 11:16:20 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: From: "terrence o'neill" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Gear Up X-Original-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 10:16:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C9FC90.7C9B1C00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C9FC90.7C9B1C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm interested, Dan. What's the part number? terrence o' L235/320 N211AL ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dan Reagan=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 07:36 Subject: [LML] Re: Gear Up After having an "almost", I did not fly again until I put a gear = warning in the airplane. Distractions are hell (along with age I guess) = and don't think for a minute that Chelton gives a "check gear" under all = circumstances. For less than $100 and a lot of thinking I now have a = speed switch in the pitot system which turns on a light and horn any = time I am below 113 knots and the gear is up. This speed is adjustable. = Aircraft Spruce has the relay board and speed switch. It works quite = well. If anyone is interested I can get the part number. I am sure = there are other ways to accomplish the same thing but this has worked = well for the last 200 or so hours. =20 Dan Reagan IVP 650 hours and installing a new engine- hope to fly in 3 weeks ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dan Ballin=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:09 PM Subject: Gear Up It seems like we have exhausted this gear up incident, except that = the object and purpose of the LML should be education and, as some have = pointed out, to learn from our mistakes. So I guess the question is = what did we learn? Hard to know without all of the facts Most of us = deal with it with checklists and technology, but these are not = infallible, and it seems like the gear up issue never goes away. So I come back to does anyone have ideas on how to keep this from = happening? Does anyone have a better mousetrap. Thoughts on how to = set up gear warning systems - both Chelton and MVP seem to do this well, = how to never forget to use the checklist even when distracted - this is = a hard one for me. Dan Ballin Leg2 #286 ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C9FC90.7C9B1C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm interested, = Dan. What's the=20 part number?
terrence = o'
L235/320 = N211AL
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dan = Reagan
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 = 07:36
Subject: [LML] Re: Gear = Up

After having an "almost", I did not = fly again=20 until I put a gear warning in the airplane.  Distractions are = hell (along=20 with age I guess) and don't think for a minute that Chelton gives a = "check=20 gear" under all circumstances.  For less than $100 and a lot of = thinking=20 I now have a speed switch in the pitot system which turns on a light = and horn=20 any time I am below 113 knots and the gear is up.  This speed is=20 adjustable.  Aircraft Spruce has the relay board and speed = switch. =20 It works quite well. If anyone is interested I can get the part = number. =20 I am sure there are other ways to accomplish the same thing but this = has=20 worked well for the last 200 or so hours. 
 
Dan Reagan
IVP 650 hours and installing a new = engine- hope=20 to fly in 3 weeks
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dan = Ballin=20
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 = 7:09=20 PM
Subject: Gear Up

It seems like we have exhausted this gear up = incident, except=20 that the object and purpose of the LML should be education and, as = some have=20 pointed out, to learn from our mistakes.  So I guess the = question is=20 what did we learn?  Hard to know without all of the = facts  =20 Most of us deal with it with checklists and technology, but these = are not=20 infallible, and it seems like the gear up issue never goes = away.

So I=20 come back to does anyone have ideas on how to keep this from=20 happening?  Does anyone have a better mousetrap.   = Thoughts on how=20 to set up gear warning systems - both Chelton and MVP seem to do = this well,=20 how to never forget to use the checklist even when distracted - this = is a=20 hard one for me.

Dan Ballin
Leg2=20 #286
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