X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:09:52 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-yx0-f180.google.com ([209.85.210.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3743012 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:50:29 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.180; envelope-from=dballin@gmail.com Received: by yxe10 with SMTP id 10so2631142yxe.7 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:49:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=lF0T9hWPC2pyb6jGfOzbZweDDvsqHLqGl7t0gzhvmnCoYs9pyQ4ZB6f5Fnivf5TOhP rwUN1QsJCsTaMkCBnkN6deW4D2MOkfi3MiS2S1c/9n337pmXSaYgNtNWE2P4OfVlpzXA aFx0YhSdkGuqyZIteAxWIybPMF/ZJaELGsFvM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr251362agb.110.1246560592697; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: dballin@gmail.com X-Original-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:49:52 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: Subject: Gear Up From: Dan Ballin X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f813a2519967046dbd8169 --001485f813a2519967046dbd8169 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It seems like we have exhausted this gear up incident, except that the object and purpose of the LML should be education and, as some have pointed out, to learn from our mistakes. So I guess the question is what did we learn? Hard to know without all of the facts Most of us deal with it with checklists and technology, but these are not infallible, and it seems like the gear up issue never goes away. So I come back to does anyone have ideas on how to keep this from happening? Does anyone have a better mousetrap. Thoughts on how to set up gear warning systems - both Chelton and MVP seem to do this well, how to never forget to use the checklist even when distracted - this is a hard one for me. Dan Ballin Leg2 #286 --001485f813a2519967046dbd8169 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It seems like we have exhausted this gear up incident, except that the obje= ct and purpose of the LML should be education and, as some have pointed out= , to learn from our mistakes.=A0 So I guess the question is what did we lea= rn?=A0 Hard to know without all of the facts=A0=A0 Most of us deal with it = with checklists and technology, but these are not infallible, and it seems = like the gear up issue never goes away.

So I come back to does anyone have ideas on how to keep this from happe= ning?=A0 Does anyone have a better mousetrap. =A0 Thoughts on how to set up= gear warning systems - both Chelton and MVP seem to do this well, how to n= ever forget to use the checklist even when distracted - this is a hard one = for me.

Dan Ballin
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