X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:09:17 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.24] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3740727 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:43:04 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.62.24; envelope-from=j.hafen@comcast.net Received: from OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id AF5Y1c0040EZKEL52PiWX8; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:42:30 +0000 Received: from [10.128.90.234] ([75.151.125.133]) by OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id APiH1c00A2soXEK3MPiK1x; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:42:20 +0000 References: X-Original-Message-Id: <8D8EE819-E34B-4216-846A-DCFA4CEAD5F1@comcast.net> From: John Hafen X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--337310473 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A341) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: RV10 Accident Report X-Original-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:42:24 -0700 X-Original-Cc: "lml@lancaironline.net" --Apple-Mail-5--337310473 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No. Just for the last 200 years. John Hafen On Jun 30, 2009, at 4:11 PM, Alain NOIREAUX =20 wrote: > Do you think the French battleships looked at the battle in their =20 > rear view mirrors at the Chesapeake Bay ,in 1781 ? > Alain Noireaux LNC2 F-PSDV and Lt-Colonel of the French Air Force > > Chat Daniel a =C3=A9crit : >> >> The same reason French battleships have rear view mirrors=E2=80=A6=E2=80= =A6to =20 >> see the battle. >> Chat Daniel >> >> From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf =20= >> Of Bill Bradburry >> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:14 AM >> To: lml@lancaironline.net >> Subject: [LML] Re: RV10 Accident Report >> >> Kevin, >> That is a great story and I agree with most of it, but please, next =20= >> time tell us those guys referring to Americans as wimps are from =20 >> somewhere other than FRANCE! >> >> MINE COD! >> >> I am reminded of a story about a French military rifle for sale. =20 >> The ad read: =E2=80=9CFrench military rifle for sale. Never fired. = Dropp=20 >> ed once.=E2=80=9D >> >> :>) >> >> Bill B >> >> From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf =20= >> Of Kevin Stallard >> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:11 PM >> To: lml@lancaironline.net >> Subject: [LML] Re: RV10 Accident Report >> >> I served a mission for my church right out of high school. I was =20 >> sent to Canada, Montreal for two years. While I was there I served =20= >> with two different missionaries from France. Both said basically =20 >> the same thing, and it went something like this: >> >> =E2=80=9CAmerican=E2=80=99s are wimps. If someone directs a remark = to an =20 >> American that happens to point something out that they are doing i=20 >> s wrong, they get offended. Instead of looking at things pragmati=20 >> cally, they take everything personally.=E2=80=9D >> >> We spend so much time trying not to hurt feelings, that we get so =20 >> tied up we can=E2=80=99t deliver the message. >> >> The comment from Mr. Dye=E2=80=99s remarks where he would phrase some = way =20 >> of pointing out something dumb was: >> >> =E2=80=9CHey Bill, you might already be aware of this, and I don=E2=80=99= t want =20 >> to sound like a know-it-all, but that fuel line looks awful short =20 >> to me =E2=80=93 when the engine moves, it could pull that end right = off!=E2=80=9D >> >> I think that illustrates our fear for saying things how they are. =20= >> We have got to knock it off. It would have been better phrased: >> >> =E2=80=9CHey Bill, What the hell=E2=80=99s this? Who put this = together, a lawn =20 >> mower repair man? I thought you were better than this. You got a=20 >> death wish or something?=E2=80=9D >> >> Or >> >> =E2=80=9CHey Bill, how did you get in here, it=E2=80=99s 300 over = cast and you =20 >> told me the other day that you aren=E2=80=99t proficient. What are = you th=20 >> inking? That was stupid.=E2=80=9D >> >> That=E2=80=99s what real friends do/say. >> >> >> I for one am sick of hearing people complain about how this =20 >> insurance company requires this or that from a builder/pilot to fly =20= >> your ship with coverage. >> >> I=E2=80=99m sick of it because it is MY insurance company who is = putting M=20 >> Y premiums on the line for your sorry butt. >> >> Call me mean, call me course, but I tell what is meaner and =20 >> courser, is when you are so caught up in yourself that you leave =20 >> behind a family, a wife, sons and daughters that need you with =20 >> them, supporting them and loving them. It=E2=80=99s hard to do when = =20 >> you=E2=80=99re spending quality time with worms under 6 feet of dirt. >> >> Or even worse, you deprive another family of one of their loved ones. >> >> Remember, the opposite of love is not hate, it is apathy. Beware =20 >> of the person who never says anything to you, stay close to the one =20= >> that is riding your ass. He just may save your life. >> >> Let=E2=80=99s have fun out there, but let=E2=80=99s look out for each = other =20 >> folks, and forgive quickly those who offend you. At least they ca=20 >> red enough to actually say something. >> >> Kevin >> >> >> >> >> >> Truly unbelievable. A string of bad judgement that defies =20 >> comprehension. >> >> This comment caught my attention: "By all accounts, Dan was =20 >> regarded as a a pretty sound person" >> The following was also taken from the RV list and is quite germain: >> >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email transmission may contain =20 >> information that is proprietary, privileged, and/or confidential =20 >> and is intended exclusively for the person(s) to whom it is =20 >> addressed. This communication represents the originator=E2=80=99s = personal=20 >> views and opinions, which do not necessarily reflect those of Cen=20 >> tury Bank & Trust. This email and its attachments are believed to =20 >> be free of any virus or defect, but it is the responsibility of th=20 >> e recipient to ensure that this is true. 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No. Just for the last 200 = years.

John Hafen

On Jun 30, 2009, at = 4:11 PM, Alain NOIREAUX <alainoireaux@free.fr> = wrote:

Do you think the French battleships looked at the battle in their rear view mirrors at the Chesapeake Bay ,in 1781 ?
Alain Noireaux   LNC2  F-PSDV and Lt-Colonel of the = French Air Force

Chat Daniel a =C3=A9crit :
=20 =20

The same reason French battleships have rear view mirrors=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6to = see the battle.

Chat Daniel

 

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net= ] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:14 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: RV10 Accident Report

 

Kevin,

That is a great story and I agree with most of it, but please, next time tell us those guys referring to Americans as wimps are from somewhere other than FRANCE!

 

MINE COD!

 

I am reminded of a story about a French = military rifle for sale.  The ad read: =E2=80=9CFrench military rifle for = sale.  Never fired.  Dropped once.=E2=80=9D  

 

:>)

 

Bill B

 

=

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net= ] On Behalf Of Kevin Stallard
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:11 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: RV10 Accident Report

I served a mission for my church right out of high school.  I was = sent to Canada, Montreal for two years.  While I was there I served with = two different missionaries from France.  Both said basically the same thing, and it went something like this:

 

=E2=80=9CAmerican=E2= =80=99s are wimps.  If someone directs a remark to an American that happens = to point something out that they are doing is wrong, they get = offended.  Instead of looking at things pragmatically, they take everything personally.=E2=80=9D

 

We spend so much time trying not to hurt feelings, that we get so tied up we can=E2=80=99t deliver the message.

 

The comment from Mr. Dye=E2=80=99s remarks where he would phrase some way of pointing out something dumb was:

 

=E2=80=9CHey Bill, you might already be aware of this, and I don=E2=80=99t want to sound = like a know-it-all, but that fuel line looks awful short to me =E2=80=93 when = the engine moves, it could pull that end right off!=E2=80=9D=

 

I think that illustrates our fear for saying things how they are.  We have got to knock it off.   It would have been better = phrased:

 

=E2=80=9CHey Bill, What the hell=E2=80=99s this?  Who put this together, a lawn = mower repair man?  I thought you were better than this.  You got a death = wish or something?=E2=80=9D

 

Or

 

=E2=80=9CHey Bill, how did you get in here, it=E2=80=99s 300 over cast and you told = me the other day that you aren=E2=80=99t proficient.  What are you = thinking?  That was stupid.=E2=80=9D

 

That=E2=80=99s what real friends do/say.

 

 

I for one am sick of hearing people complain about how this insurance company requires this or that from a builder/pilot to fly your ship with coverage. 

 

I=E2=80=99m sick of it because it is MY insurance company who is putting MY premiums on the line for your sorry butt.

 

Call me mean, call me course, but I tell what is meaner and courser, is when you are so caught up in yourself that you leave behind a family, a wife, sons and daughters that need you with them, supporting them and loving them.   It=E2=80=99s hard to do when you=E2=80=99re = spending quality time with worms under 6 feet of dirt.

 

Or even worse, you deprive another family of one of their loved ones. 

 

Remember, the opposite of love is not hate, it is apathy.  Beware of the = person who never says anything to you, stay close to the one that is riding your ass.  He just may save your life.

 

Let=E2=80=99s have fun out there, but let=E2=80=99s look out for each other folks, and forgive quickly those who offend you.  At least they cared enough = to actually say something.

 

Kevin

 

 

 

 

 

Truly unbelievable.  A string of bad judgement that defies = comprehension.

 

This comment caught my attention:  "By all accounts, Dan was regarded as = a a pretty sound person"

The following was also taken from the RV list and is quite = germain:

 


CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: = This email transmission may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, and/or confidential and is intended exclusively for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. This communication represents the originator=E2=80=99s personal views and opinions, which do not = necessarily reflect those of Century Bank & Trust. This email and its attachments are believed to be free of any virus or defect, but it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that this is true. Century Bank does not accept responsibility or liability for any loss or damage arising in any way from the receipt or use of this email or for any errors or omissions in its contents which may arise as a result of its transmission. Any use, copying, retention or disclosure by any person other than the intended recipient or the intended recipient=E2=80=99= s designees is strictly prohibited. If you are the intended recipient, you must treat the information in confidence and in accordance with all laws related to the privacy and confidentiality of such information. If you are not the intended recipient or their designee, please notify the sender immediately by return email and delete all copies of this email, including all attachments. Thank You.
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