X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:23:44 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail1.gladtech.net ([216.235.140.87] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 3737383 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:34:13 -0400 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.235.140.87; envelope-from=chatdaniel@centurybankonline.com Received: from ([151.213.202.2]) by mail1.gladtech.net with ESMTP with TLS id 5503691.33419139; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:32:18 -0400 Received: from Exchange.Century.local ([::1]) by Exchange.Century.local ([fe80::9c5e:250f:3e2b:5dac%10]) with mapi; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:33:56 -0400 From: Chat Daniel X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:33:55 -0400 Subject: RE: [LML] Re: RV10 Accident Report Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: RV10 Accident Report Thread-Index: Acn5fGeeJIALjf3tRs6iuISnk9hYzAACusiQ X-Original-Message-ID: <224AEB147425D947B9FE2AE2B54E8B2C1A5307D3@Exchange.Century.local> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_224AEB147425D947B9FE2AE2B54E8B2C1A5307D3ExchangeCentury_" --_000_224AEB147425D947B9FE2AE2B54E8B2C1A5307D3ExchangeCentury_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The same reason French battleships have rear view mirrors=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E= to see the battle=2E=0D=0AChat Daniel=0D=0A=0D=0AFrom: Lancair Mailing List= [mailto:lml@lancaironline=2Enet] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry=0D=0ASent: Tu= esday, June 30, 2009 8:14 AM=0D=0ATo: lml@lancaironline=2Enet=0D=0ASubject:= [LML] Re: RV10 Accident Report=0D=0A=0D=0AKevin,=0D=0AThat is a great stor= y and I agree with most of it, but please, next time tell us those guys ref= erring to Americans as wimps are from somewhere other than FRANCE!=0D=0A=0D= =0AMINE COD!=0D=0A=0D=0AI am reminded of a story about a French military ri= fle for sale=2E The ad read: "French military rifle for sale=2E Never fir= ed=2E Dropped once=2E"=0D=0A=0D=0A:>)=0D=0A=0D=0ABill B=0D=0A=0D=0A_______= _________________________=0D=0AFrom: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lanca= ironline=2Enet] On Behalf Of Kevin Stallard=0D=0ASent: Sunday, June 28, 200= 9 3:11 PM=0D=0ATo: lml@lancaironline=2Enet=0D=0ASubject: [LML] Re: RV10 Acc= ident Report=0D=0AI served a mission for my church right out of high school= =2E I was sent to Canada, Montreal for two years=2E While I was there I s= erved with two different missionaries from France=2E Both said basically t= he same thing, and it went something like this:=0D=0A=0D=0A"American's are = wimps=2E If someone directs a remark to an American that happens to point = something out that they are doing is wrong, they get offended=2E Instead o= f looking at things pragmatically, they take everything personally=2E"=0D= =0A=0D=0AWe spend so much time trying not to hurt feelings, that we get so = tied up we can't deliver the message=2E=0D=0A=0D=0AThe comment from Mr=2E D= ye's remarks where he would phrase some way of pointing out something dumb = was:=0D=0A=0D=0A"Hey Bill, you might already be aware of this, and I don't = want to sound like a know-it-all, but that fuel line looks awful short to m= e - when the engine moves, it could pull that end right off!"=0D=0A=0D=0AI = think that illustrates our fear for saying things how they are=2E We have = got to knock it off=2E It would have been better phrased:=0D=0A=0D=0A"Hey= Bill, What the hell's this? Who put this together, a lawn mower repair ma= n? I thought you were better than this=2E You got a death wish or somethi= ng?"=0D=0A=0D=0AOr=0D=0A=0D=0A"Hey Bill, how did you get in here, it's 300 = over cast and you told me the other day that you aren't proficient=2E What= are you thinking? That was stupid=2E"=0D=0A=0D=0AThat's what real friends= do/say=2E=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0AI for one am sick of hearing people complain ab= out how this insurance company requires this or that from a builder/pilot t= o fly your ship with coverage=2E=0D=0A=0D=0AI'm sick of it because it is MY= insurance company who is putting MY premiums on the line for your sorry bu= tt=2E=0D=0A=0D=0ACall me mean, call me course, but I tell what is meaner an= d courser, is when you are so caught up in yourself that you leave behind a= family, a wife, sons and daughters that need you with them, supporting the= m and loving them=2E It's hard to do when you're spending quality time wi= th worms under 6 feet of dirt=2E=0D=0A=0D=0AOr even worse, you deprive anot= her family of one of their loved ones=2E=0D=0A=0D=0ARemember, the opposite = of love is not hate, it is apathy=2E Beware of the person who never says a= nything to you, stay close to the one that is riding your ass=2E He just m= ay save your life=2E=0D=0A=0D=0ALet's have fun out there, but let's look ou= t for each other folks, and forgive quickly those who offend you=2E At lea= st they cared enough to actually say something=2E=0D=0A=0D=0AKevin=0D=0A=0D= =0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0ATruly unbelievable=2E A string of bad judgement= that defies comprehension=2E=0D=0A=0D=0AThis comment caught my attention: = "By all accounts, Dan was regarded as a a pretty sound person"=0D=0AThe fo= llowing was also taken from the RV list and is quite germain:=0D=0A=0D=0A= =0D=0A________________________________=0D=0ACONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This em= ail transmission may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, a= nd/or confidential and is intended exclusively for the person(s) to whom it= is addressed=2E This communication represents the originator's personal vi= ews and opinions, which do not necessarily reflect those of Century Bank & = Trust=2E This email and its attachments are believed to be free of any viru= s or defect, but it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that t= his is true=2E Century Bank does not accept responsibility or liability for= any loss or damage arising in any way from the receipt or use of this emai= l or for any errors or omissions in its contents which may arise as a resul= t of its transmission=2E Any use, copying, retention or disclosure by any p= erson other than the intended recipient or the intended recipient's designe= es is strictly prohibited=2E If you are the intended recipient, you must tr= eat the information in confidence and in accordance with all laws related t= o the privacy and confidentiality of such information=2E If you are not the= intended recipient or their designee, please notify the sender immediately= by return email and delete all copies of this email, including all attachm= ents=2E Thank You=2E=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0ACONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email tr= ansmission may contain=0Ainformation that is proprietary, privileged, and/o= r confidential=0Aand is intended exclusively for the person(s) to whom it i= s=0Aaddressed=2E This communication represents the originator's personal= =0Aviews and opinions, which do not necessarily reflect those of=0ACentury = Bank & Trust=2E This email and its attachments are believed=0Ato be free of= any virus or defect, but it is the responsibility of=0Athe recipient to en= sure that this is true=2E Century Bank does not=0Aaccept responsibility or= liability for any loss or damage arising=0Ain any way from the receipt or = use of this email or for any errors=0Aor omissions in its contents which ma= y arise as a result of its=0Atransmission=2E Any use, copying, retention o= r disclosure by any=0Aperson other than the intended recipient or the inten= ded=0Arecipient's designees is strictly prohibited=2E If you are the=0Aint= ended recipient, you must treat the information in confidence=0Aand in acco= rdance with all laws related to the privacy and=0Aconfidentiality of such i= nformation=2E If you are not the intended=0Arecipient or their designee, p= lease notify the sender immediately=0Aby return email and delete all copies= of this email, including all=0Aattachments=2E Thank You=2E --_000_224AEB147425D947B9FE2AE2B54E8B2C1A5307D3ExchangeCentury_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A
=0D=0A<= p class=3D"MsoNormal">The same reason Fr= ench battleships have rear view mirrors……to see the battle=2E

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From:<= /b> Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline=2Enet]=0D= =0AOn Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
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Kevin,

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That is a great story and I agree with most of it, but please, next tim= e tell us those guys referring to Americans as wimps are from somewhere oth= er than FRANCE!

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MINE COD!

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I am reminded= of a story about a French military rifle for sale=2E  The ad read: &#= 8220;French military rifle for sale=2E  Never fired=2E  Dropped o= nce=2E”  

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:>)

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Bill B

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From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lanc= aironline=2Enet]=0D=0AOn Behalf Of Kevin Stallard
=0D=0ASent:<= /b> Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:11 PM
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I served a = mission for my church right out of high school=2E  I was sent to Canad= a, Montreal for two years=2E  While I was there I served with two diff= erent missionaries=0D=0A from France=2E  Both said basically the same = thing, and it went something like this:

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“American&= #8217;s are wimps=2E  If someone directs a remark to an American that = happens to point something out that they are doing is wrong, they get offen= ded=2E  Instead=0D=0A of looking at things pragmatically, they take ev= erything personally=2E”

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We spend so much time trying= not to hurt feelings, that we get so tied up we can’t deliver the me= ssage=2E

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The comment from Mr=2E Dye’s remarks where= he would phrase some way of pointing out something dumb was:

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“Hey Bi= ll, you might already be aware of this, and I don’t want to sound lik= e a know-it-all, but that fuel line looks awful short to me – when th= e engine moves, it could pull=0D=0A that end right off!”

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I think that= illustrates our fear for saying things how they are=2E  We have got t= o knock it off=2E   It would have been better phrased:=

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“Hey Bill, What the hell’s this?  Who put this toge= ther, a lawn mower repair man?  I thought you were better than this=2E=   You got a death wish or something?”

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Or=

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“Hey Bill, how did you get in here, it’s 300 ove= r cast and you told me the other day that you aren’t proficient=2E&nb= sp; What are you thinking?  That was stupid=2E”

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That’s what real friends do/say=2E

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I = for one am sick of hearing people complain about how this insurance company= requires this or that from a builder/pilot to fly your ship with coverage= =2E =0D=0A

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I’m sick of it because it is MY insu= rance company who is putting MY premiums on the line for your sorry butt=2E=

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Call me mean, call me course, but I tell what is meaner = and courser, is when you are so caught up in yourself that you leave behind= a family, a wife, sons and=0D=0A daughters that need you with them, suppor= ting them and loving them=2E   It’s hard to do when youR= 17;re spending quality time with worms under 6 feet of dirt=2E

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&n= bsp;

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Or even worse, you deprive another family of one of their loved ones= =2E =0D=0A

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Remember, the opposite of love is not hate= , it is apathy=2E  Beware of the person who never says anything to you= , stay close to the one that is riding your ass=2E =0D=0A He just may = save your life=2E

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Let’s have fun out there, but let&= #8217;s look out for each other folks, and forgive quickly those who offend= you=2E  At least they cared enough to actually say something=2E<= /o:p>

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Kevin

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= Truly unbelievable=2E  A string of bad judgement that def= ies comprehension=2E

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This comment caught my at= tention:  "By all accounts, Dan was regarded as a a pretty sound = person"

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The following was also taken from the RV list&= nbsp;and is quite germain:

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