X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:13:53 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net ([204.127.217.106] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3735554 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:39:15 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.217.106; envelope-from=bbradburry@bellsouth.net Received: from desktop (adsl-146-126-115.mco.bellsouth.net[72.146.126.115]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc06) with SMTP id <20090628193836H0600ffjr7e>; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:38:37 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [72.146.126.115] From: "Bill Bradburry" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: RV10 Accident Report X-Original-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:38:39 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <41EC4CF456334E67A2E36CCC4305F787@Desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9F806.82D21CB0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acn4JDbhcATPpBZPSCSqcepqtHUTeQAAyZvg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9F806.82D21CB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kevin, That is a great story and I agree with most of it, but please, next time tell us those guys referring to Americans as wimps are from somewhere other than FRANCE! MINE COD! I am reminded of a story about a French military rifle for sale. The ad read: "French military rifle for sale. Never fired. Dropped once." :>) Bill B _____ From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Stallard Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:11 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: RV10 Accident Report I served a mission for my church right out of high school. I was sent to Canada, Montreal for two years. While I was there I served with two different missionaries from France. Both said basically the same thing, and it went something like this: "American's are wimps. If someone directs a remark to an American that happens to point something out that they are doing is wrong, they get offended. Instead of looking at things pragmatically, they take everything personally." We spend so much time trying not to hurt feelings, that we get so tied up we can't deliver the message. The comment from Mr. Dye's remarks where he would phrase some way of pointing out something dumb was: "Hey Bill, you might already be aware of this, and I don't want to sound like a know-it-all, but that fuel line looks awful short to me - when the engine moves, it could pull that end right off!" I think that illustrates our fear for saying things how they are. We have got to knock it off. It would have been better phrased: "Hey Bill, What the hell's this? Who put this together, a lawn mower repair man? I thought you were better than this. You got a death wish or something?" Or "Hey Bill, how did you get in here, it's 300 over cast and you told me the other day that you aren't proficient. What are you thinking? That was stupid." That's what real friends do/say. I for one am sick of hearing people complain about how this insurance company requires this or that from a builder/pilot to fly your ship with coverage. I'm sick of it because it is MY insurance company who is putting MY premiums on the line for your sorry butt. Call me mean, call me course, but I tell what is meaner and courser, is when you are so caught up in yourself that you leave behind a family, a wife, sons and daughters that need you with them, supporting them and loving them. It's hard to do when you're spending quality time with worms under 6 feet of dirt. Or even worse, you deprive another family of one of their loved ones. Remember, the opposite of love is not hate, it is apathy. Beware of the person who never says anything to you, stay close to the one that is riding your ass. He just may save your life. Let's have fun out there, but let's look out for each other folks, and forgive quickly those who offend you. At least they cared enough to actually say something. Kevin Truly unbelievable. A string of bad judgement that defies comprehension. This comment caught my attention: "By all accounts, Dan was regarded as a a pretty sound person" The following was also taken from the RV list and is quite germain: ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9F806.82D21CB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Kevin,

That is a great story and I agree with most of it, but please, = next time tell us those guys referring to Americans as wimps are from = somewhere other than FRANCE!

 

MINE COD!

 

I am reminded of a story about a French military rifle for = sale.  The ad read: “French military rifle for sale.  Never = fired.  Dropped once.”  

 

:>)

 

Bill B

 

From: Lancair Mailing List = [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Stallard
Sent: Sunday, June 28, = 2009 3:11 PM
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: RV10 = Accident Report

I served a mission for my church = right out of high school.  I was sent to Canada, Montreal for two years.  While I was there I served with two different = missionaries from France.  Both said basically the same thing, and it went something like = this:

 

“American’s are = wimps.  If someone directs a remark to an American that happens to point = something out that they are doing is wrong, they get offended.  Instead of = looking at things pragmatically, they take everything = personally.”

 

We spend so much time trying not to = hurt feelings, that we get so tied up we can’t deliver the = message.

 

The comment from Mr. Dye’s = remarks where he would phrase some way of pointing out something dumb = was:

 

“Hey Bill, you might already be aware of this, = and I don’t want to sound like a know-it-all, but that fuel line looks = awful short to me – when the engine moves, it could pull that end right off!”

 

I think that illustrates our fear = for saying things how they are.  We have got to knock it off. =   It would have been better phrased:

 

“Hey Bill, What the = hell’s this?  Who put this together, a lawn mower repair man?  I = thought you were better than this.  You got a death wish or = something?”

 

Or

 

“Hey Bill, how did you get in = here, it’s 300 over cast and you told me the other day that you = aren’t proficient.  What are you thinking?  That was = stupid.”

 

That’s what real friends = do/say.

 

 

I for one am sick of hearing people complain about how this insurance company requires this or that from a builder/pilot to fly your ship with coverage.  =

 

I’m sick of it because it is = MY insurance company who is putting MY premiums on the line for your sorry = butt.

 

Call me mean, call me course, but I = tell what is meaner and courser, is when you are so caught up in yourself = that you leave behind a family, a wife, sons and daughters that need you with = them, supporting them and loving = them.   It’s hard to do when you’re spending quality time with worms = under 6 feet of dirt.

 

Or even worse, you deprive another = family of one of their loved ones. 

 

Remember, the opposite of love is = not hate, it is apathy.  Beware of the person who never says anything = to you, stay close to the one that is riding your ass.  He just may save = your life.

 

Let’s have fun out there, but let’s look out for each other folks, and forgive quickly those who = offend you.  At least they cared enough to actually say = something.

 

Kevin

 

 

 

 

 

Truly unbelievable.  A string of bad judgement = that defies comprehension.

 

This comment caught my attention:  "By all accounts, Dan was regarded as a a pretty sound = person"

The following was also taken from the RV = list and is quite germain:

 

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