Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #51964
From: Gary Edwards <gary21sn@hotmail.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: Guidance on GTOW
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:20:58 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
There is a reason why some builders have high gross weights.  I will not speak of it on this forum.  Typically they have a weight in their mind that they will not exceed, which is an amount less than the designated gross weight in the planes documents. 
 
If you want to contact me off-forum, we can discuss the subject.
 
Gary Edwards
LNC2
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 11:14 AM
Subject: [LML] Guidance on GTOW

I have a topic for discussion. 
If the factory, Lancair, designs and builds an airplane.  The airplane is tested. They come up with limits for the airplane and publish a POH.  They give the aircraft a Gross Weight.  In the 320/360 they assign a MGTOW of 1790 lbs. The maximum weight for landing is 1685.
Recently I asked what the gross weight of the Lancair 360 was. I got multiple answers and all, except one,  were different than what Lancair published.  I was also told you make up the gross weight. It can be what ever you want.
My question is this.......how can we operate these aircraft as safely as possible when most are disregarding the number the designer assigned as a gross weight for the aircraft?  I know 3 lancair 360's with a claim of a 2100lb Gross weight. Only 400lbs over the highest number the factory would allow.......400LBS 
I could see assigning 1800 lbs but 400lbs over the published limit?
I realize you can take the risk of how the aircraft will behave or if the gear will handle the heavier loads since its your airplane but if our goal is promote safe operation of these aircraft and reduce accidents why would you want to assign a number higher than what the designer assigned?


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