X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:14:31 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-gx0-f210.google.com ([209.85.217.210] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3733161 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:06:36 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.217.210; envelope-from=vonjet@gmail.com Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so2175383gxk.19 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:06:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=u3LdD2LycdWDAzCHlQbp/8WblRFmiJBbwKqRwW/CXngAj7wTPElMGE2xJfIGg4jYsB 6/19vz99oh1nZZ+W2Zlshs3si3oe+r4a8F/hKJru8ijvecGEV9ZFzKIkPLW6dklmj5N7 DwLBZ7RCgHsORFpWWMC2Z6YPgfU4N2fFUXZRA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.70.15 with SMTP id s15mr2623409aga.111.1245981961766; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:06:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:06:01 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: Subject: Guidance on GTOW From: Bryan Wullner X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f0ef3a48b4046d36c87a --00163630f0ef3a48b4046d36c87a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a topic for discussion. If the factory, Lancair, designs and builds an airplane. The airplane is tested. They come up with limits for the airplane and publish a POH. They give the aircraft a Gross Weight. In the 320/360 they assign a MGTOW of 1790 lbs. The maximum weight for landing is 1685. Recently I asked what the gross weight of the Lancair 360 was. I got multiple answers and all, except one, were different than what Lancair published. I was also told you make up the gross weight. It can be what ever you want. My question is this.......how can we operate these aircraft as safely as possible when most are disregarding the number the designer assigned as a gross weight for the aircraft? I know 3 lancair 360's with a claim of a 2100lb Gross weight. Only 400lbs over the highest number the factory would allow.......400LBS I could see assigning 1800 lbs but 400lbs over the published limit? I realize you can take the risk of how the aircraft will behave or if the gear will handle the heavier loads since its your airplane but if our goal is promote safe operation of these aircraft and reduce accidents why would you want to assign a number higher than what the designer assigned? --00163630f0ef3a48b4046d36c87a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a topic for discussion.=A0
If the factory, Lancair, designs and = builds an airplane. =A0The airplane is tested. They come up with limits for= the airplane and publish a POH. =A0They give the aircraft a Gross Weight. = =A0In the 320/360 they assign a MGTOW of 1790 lbs. The maximum weight for l= anding is 1685.
Recently I asked what the gross weight of the Lancair 360 was. I got m= ultiple answers and all, except one, =A0were different than what Lancair pu= blished. =A0I was also told you make up the gross weight. It can be what ev= er you want.
My question is this.......how can we operate these aircraft as safely = as possible when most are disregarding the number the designer assigned as = a gross weight for the aircraft? =A0I know 3 lancair 360's with a claim= of a 2100lb Gross weight. Only 400lbs over the highest number the factory = would allow.......400LBS=A0
I could see assigning 1800 lbs but 400lbs over the published limit?
I realize you can take the risk of how the aircraft will behave or = if the gear will handle the heavier loads since its your airplane but if ou= r goal is promote safe operation of these aircraft and reduce accidents why= would you want to assign a number higher than what the designer assigned?<= /div>


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