X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:29:12 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com ([74.125.46.29] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3654080 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 26 May 2009 16:49:12 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.46.29; envelope-from=bakercdb@gmail.com Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so2321214ywe.7 for ; Tue, 26 May 2009 13:48:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=okGn/WGcNh23S1wVQlP3L+iG+ZQOK+39PwpvULEElmjlo+VuL64tFBbWU2stXCvTVd B4wt7qJI1Bt6SrOChjj5ORxvX8gLmxp7OSbuGkTx/xY8X/LitUZxdWY0PynbNLdGjnWC bpDCMbLloY3GmjXo5oUaqNmGYEHN554jtO8j8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.138.8 with SMTP id q8mr17517574ybn.179.1243370917980; Tue, 26 May 2009 13:48:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 16:48:37 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <175557b90905261348q61366c45t551cf297dfc77b4f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Gear Relays are not working From: Clark Baker X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David, Any thoughts on point #1 (the 50A breaker)? (on all of my relays I am using the Blue Sea ones). On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:22 PM, John Cooper wrote: > Good comments so far by several responders. My personal additions: > > 1. A 50A circuit breaker specified in the plans will in no way protect yo= ur > hydraulic pump from burning up should the rotor lock up, neither will it > protect your #10 pump wiring from burning up in the event of a fault. Thi= s > error by the factory dates back to the very first kit in 1986(?), and AFA= IK, > Lancair has never corrected it. The Oildyne pump draws maybe ~15 Amps whe= n > the gear are in motion, which spikes up to ~30 Amps just before the press= ure > switch stops the pump. A 50 Amp circuit breaker will take roughly 3 minut= es > to trip with 100 Amps flowing through it. Think about that. > > If you insist on using a circuit breaker, 30A would be better, but still > won't protect you from smoke in the cockpit should your pump lock up. (A = 30A > or 40A Maxi-Fuse offers better protection.) > > 2. Yes, connect the control power circuit breaker downstream of the main > circuit breaker for the hydraulic pump. That way, the relays can't stay > energized when the main CB (or fuse) is open. > > 3. =A0I recommend high-reliability 75A Bosch Relays for the hydraulic pum= p, > not the crap that the factory provided. (see details and part numbers pos= ted > here sometime during the last year). > > 4. Yes, use the back-to-back diodes to feed your "gear transition light". > (See the schematic I posted here a few months ago). I used a red/green LE= D > which shows red when the hydraulic pump is running in either direction, a= nd > green when the nose gear door is closed. > > 5. Lance was a true genius when it came to aerodynamics, aesthetics, and > business, but he didn't know diddly about electricity. > > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.ht= ml > --=20 Clark Baker mobile: + 1 917 558 5567 bakercdb@gmail.com