X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:44:32 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [64.12.137.3] (HELO imo-m22.mail.aol.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3650409 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 22 May 2009 10:00:40 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.137.3; envelope-from=VTAILJEFF@aol.com Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imo-m22.mail.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-24a16afd68a; Fri, 22 May 2009 10:00:00 -0400 Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id q.d55.4f7b0214 (37143) for ; Fri, 22 May 2009 09:59:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.141]) by cia-ma03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA035-5c4f4a16afce1c5; Fri, 22 May 2009 09:59:47 -0400 Received: from webmail-stg-m02 (webmail-stg-m02.sim.aol.com [64.12.222.101]) by smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA025-5c4f4a16afce1c5; Fri, 22 May 2009 09:59:42 -0400 References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Engine Out Practice X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:59:42 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.136 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CBA8FCB06F7A50_27E0_1AED0_webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42951-STANDARD Received: from 75.33.124.172 by webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com (fe80::7042:3761:3a8b:8934%11) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 22 May 2009 09:59:42 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CBA8FCB05ED0A2-27E0-D025@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO ----------MB_8CBA8FCB06F7A50_27E0_1AED0_webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Killing an engine with mags or mixture for purposes of engine out training is NOT recommended in flight training-- because instead of "practicing" an emergency-- you now have one (albeit self induced). Great discussion on this topic BUT I really recommend you all get with a good instructor and practice this first before you read about it on the internet and then go do it. Too many variables to describe here to do the topic justice. Jeff ccfi (certificated chicken flight instructor) -----Original Message----- From: Craig Berland To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Mon, 18 May 2009 7:38 pm Subject: [LML] Engine Out Practice One question: what would be the better way to shut down for easy restart? Mags or mixture? -Bill Wade Bill, I would use mixture.? Using the mags allows gas to wash down the cylinders, which in my opinion is not a good thing.? Additionally by just pushing the red knob in will bring the engine back to life without any worry of fouled spark plugs.? Personally, I would slowly push the red knob in.? How slowly would depend on whether or not I was about to land at a desirable spot. Craig Berland ----------MB_8CBA8FCB06F7A50_27E0_1AED0_webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Killing an engine with mags or mixture for purposes of engine out training is NOT recommended in flight training-- because instead of "practicing" an emergency-- you now have one (albeit self induced). Great discussion on this topic BUT I really recommend you all get with a good instructor and practice this first before you read about it on the internet and then go do it. Too many variables to describe here to do the topic justice.

Jeff
ccfi (certificated chicken flight instructor)


-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Berland <cberland@systems3.net>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Mon, 18 May 2009 7:38 pm
Subject: [LML] Engine Out Practice

One question: what would be the better way to shut down for easy restart?
Mags or mixture? -Bill Wade

Bill, I would use mixture.  Using the mags allows gas to wash down the cylinders, which in my opinion is not a good thing.  Additionally by just pushing the red knob in will bring the engine back to life without any worry of fouled spark plugs.  Personally, I would slowly push the red knob in.  How slowly would depend on whether or not I was about to land at a desirable spot.
Craig Berland
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