X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:18:58 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.65] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3610582 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:46:53 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.65; envelope-from=skagitvalley@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=mjhxhjGUVOOW4mooxX9mIZgsHOad6Nb9D63hOO25yMDLL6s4n5rI5npLGp5KgkRj; h=Received:Message-ID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-Mailer:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [71.117.1.99] (helo=earthlink.net) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LzCvJ-0003jM-MP for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:46:18 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <410-220093123162710565@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: skagitvalley@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.2.15.0 (Windows) From: "don wwww" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: RE: [LML] Transporting a 360 by trailer X-Original-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:27:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8" X-ELNK-Trace: 16b9ee12d520a545aacd904858c439844d2b10475b5711203a89c6d00ed0e763593c9a3a98170e0a52db4625bbac1f48350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 71.117.1.99 ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I towed a 320 from Beaumont TX to the Seattle area with a Saturn wagon with a 4 cyl. engine on a tow dolly. A friend had a kind of deck that he'd made that bolted to the tow dolly to bring his 360 to the airport with. Similar setup as you described. Loaded the same way & bolted chocks to the "deck". Used 4" wide tie down straps over the fuselage, one around the prop hub & a couple to the landing gear. Didn't think of replacing the gear links though. Good idea. After stopping to cinch down a couple of times when we first started the trip we had no problems. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: 4/29/2009 2:59:31 AM Subject: [LML] Transporting a 360 by trailer I consider myself the world's most experienced person at transporting a 360 by road. I have moved my airplane from Cleveland to SoCal to NoCal to SoCal to Denver and numerous shorter trips as well. I use a dual-wide snowmobile trailer. This trailer cost me $750 brand new in 1996. My modifications to it were minor, consisting of bolting chocks in strateigc places and tie down rings in other strategic places. I also bolted an ammo can to the trailer tongue -- 75 pounds in the box is needed when the trailer is empty to keep the tongue weight right. I will take pictures later this week, but the airplane will not be on it. Some things to remember. 1) It doesn't matter when you do this -- it WILL rain on your airplane. Wrap it up with 4 mil polyethylene sheet (or equivalent) from Home Depot. Use lots of tape. Plan on stopping at least twice in the first couple of hours to tape down flapping plastic. Use a tarp for the engfine compartment. 2) Use BLACK plastic to eliminate UV exposure, unless your airplane is painted or in primer. 3) A stretch net (for pick up truck beds) is good over the canopy area. 4) I replace the folding main landing gear links with a 1/2 x 1 inch aluminum bar. The bar extends slightly outboard of the gear strut. A shackle goes there and is the anchor point for a come-along. 5) The lower engine mount is used for two come-along straps. I cannot trailer with the cowling installed. 6) The aircraft is restrained from moving fore and aft by large chocks cut from a 4 x 4. These are bolted thru the plywood floor of the trailer. I unbolt the aft chock to roll the plane on, then bolt it back on. Smaller wooden pieces (2 x 2, I think) go alongside the tire on the inside to keep it from skittering sideways. 7) The nosewheel rides on a metal center piece to which the plywood is attached. The trailer came that way. 8) The plywood trailer floor tends to sink at the main wheels. Screw on a 2 x 2 to the plywood underneath the wheels to limt the sinking of the plywood. 9) The best way I've found to load the trailer is to make a set of ramps with three 2 x 12s. Don't build anything -- just lay one end of the 2x12 on the trailer and the other end on the ground. Have at least two other people to help. I have towed this 2000 miles with a Honda Civic, and another 1000 miles with a Miata. It doesn't take a truck to do it, but now that I have one, that's what I use. In the early days, before I attached the vertical fin, I had a light bar assembly for the back end. Let me know if you can use this. - Rob Wolf An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
I towed a 320 from Beaumont TX to the Seattle area with a Saturn wagon with a 4 cyl. engine on a tow dolly. A friend had a kind of deck that he'd made that bolted to the tow dolly to bring his 360 to the airport with. Similar setup as you described. Loaded the same way & bolted chocks to the "deck". Used 4" wide tie down straps over the fuselage, one around the prop hub & a couple to the landing gear. Didn't think of replacing the gear links though. Good idea. After stopping to cinch down a couple of times when we first started the trip we had no problems.
 
 
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I consider myself the world's most experienced person at transporting a 360 by road.  I have moved my airplane from Cleveland to SoCal to NoCal to SoCal to Denver and numerous shorter trips as well.

I use a dual-wide snowmobile trailer.  This trailer cost me $750 brand new in 1996.  My modifications to it were minor, consisting of bolting chocks in strateigc places and tie down rings in other strategic places.  I also bolted an ammo can to the trailer tongue -- 75 pounds in the box is needed when the trailer is empty to keep the tongue weight right.

I will take pictures later this week, but the airplane will not be on it. 

Some things to remember.

1)  It doesn't matter when you do this -- it WILL rain on your airplane.  Wrap it up with 4 mil polyethylene sheet (or equivalent) from Home Depot.  Use lots of tape.  Plan on stopping at least twice in the first couple of hours to tape down flapping plastic.  Use a tarp for the engfine compartment.

2)  Use BLACK plastic to eliminate UV exposure, unless your airplane is painted or in primer.

3)  A stretch net (for pick up truck beds) is good over the canopy area.

4)  I replace the folding main landing gear links with a 1/2 x 1 inch aluminum bar.  The bar extends slightly outboard of the gear strut.  A shackle goes there and is the anchor point for a come-along.

5)  The lower engine mount is used for two come-along straps.  I cannot trailer with the cowling installed.

6)  The aircraft is restrained from moving fore and aft by large chocks cut from a 4 x 4.  These are bolted thru the plywood floor of the trailer.  I unbolt the aft chock to roll the plane on, then bolt it back on.  Smaller wooden pieces (2 x 2, I think) go alongside the tire on the inside to keep it from skittering sideways.

7)  The nosewheel rides on a metal center piece to which the plywood is attached.  The trailer came that way.

8)  The plywood trailer floor tends to sink at the main wheels.  Screw on a 2 x 2 to the plywood underneath the wheels to limt the sinking of the plywood.

9)  The best way I've found to load the trailer is to make a set of ramps with three 2 x 12s.  Don't build anything -- just lay one end of the 2x12 on the trailer and the other end on the ground.  Have at least two other people to help.

I have towed this 2000 miles with a Honda Civic, and another 1000 miles with a Miata.  It doesn't take a truck to do it, but now that I have one, that's what I use.

In the early days, before I attached the vertical fin, I had a light bar assembly for the back end.  Let me know if you can use this.

- Rob Wolf
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