X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:51:47 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.10) with ESMTP id 3282057 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:00:45 -0500 Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id q.d50.38f80930 (34894) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 13:00:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail-mf05 (webmail-mf05.webmail.aol.com [64.12.88.218]) by cia-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA013-884e4915d3c9350; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:00:41 -0500 References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Safety in our Community of Lancairs X-Original-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:00:41 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.85.153.156 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB0FE30C514AE3_D58_26_webmail-mf05.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD Received: from 71.85.153.156 by webmail-mf05.sysops.aol.com (64.12.88.218) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:00:41 -0500 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CB0FE30C4A23C9-D58-14@webmail-mf05.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO ----------MB_8CB0FE30C514AE3_D58_26_webmail-mf05.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Classified according to highest certificate you hold.... -----Original Message----- From: Sky2high@aol.com To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 9:10 am Subject: [LML] Re: Safety in our Community of Lancairs Uh, Jeff - where would I be counted?? I hold a Private SEL and a Commercial MEL (also Instrument airplane)? ? BTW, I would guess that most (a statistical?term meaning more than 50%) experimental aircraft accidents happen to private pilots.? ? I had a number of incidents (defined as somewhat costly "oops") when I was a SLIT (Severely Limited In Type). How about we classify the great number of incidents that have occurred by counting "Prop Blades?Installed per Hours In Type" (PBI/HIT) - My number would be 8/950.? A large fraction would not be good.? ? Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk? ? Or, ? In a message dated 11/7/2008 5:38:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, vtailjeff@aol.com writes: More numbers: 57% of our Lancair accidents involve pilots with less than 100 hours in the Lancair model. 40% of the Lancair accident pilots had less than 50 hours in type at the time of the accident. The GA number for the last 3 years according to the Nall report is between 43 and 47% of the accident pilots had less than 100 hours in type. (see AOPA ASF Nall Report). 35% of the total pilot population?hold Private Pilot certificates. 48% of the GA accidents occur to Private Pilots. 55% of our Lancair accidents involve Private Pilots. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: vtailjeff@aol.com To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 6:09 pm Subject: [LML] Re: Safety in our Community of Lancairs Here is more food for thought. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Giffen Marr To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 7:07 pm Subject: [LML] Re: Safety in our Community of Lancairs Jeff What is the vertical scale?? Giff ? From: vtailjeff@aol.com [mailto:vtailjeff@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 7:03 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Safety in our Community of Lancairs ? Here is a pretty sobering chart. Jeff ? McCain or Obama? Stay up to date on the latest from the campaign trail with AOL News. Instant access to the latest & most popular FREE games while you browse with the Games Toolbar - Download Now! -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html Instant access to the latest & most popular FREE games while you browse with the Games Toolbar - Download Now! AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. ----------MB_8CB0FE30C514AE3_D58_26_webmail-mf05.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Classified according to highest certificate you hold....


-----Original Message-----
From: Sky2high@aol.com
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 9:10 am
Subject: [LML] Re: Safety in our Community of Lancairs

Uh, Jeff - where would I be counted?  I hold a Private SEL and a Commercial MEL (also Instrument airplane)?
 
BTW, I would guess that most (a statistical term meaning more than 50%) experimental aircraft accidents happen to private pilots. 
 
I had a number of incidents (defined as somewhat costly "oops") when I was a SLIT (Severely Limited In Type). How about we classify the great number of incidents that have occurred by counting "Prop Blades Installed per Hours In Type" (PBI/HIT) - My number would be 8/950.  A large fraction would not be good. 
 
Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk 
 
Or,
 
In a message dated 11/7/2008 5:38:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, vtailjeff@aol.com writes:
More numbers:

57% of our Lancair accidents involve pilots with less than 100 hours in the Lancair model. 40% of the Lancair accident pilots had less than 50 hours in type at the time of the accident. The GA number for the last 3 years according to the Nall report is between 43 and 47% of the accident pilots had less than 100 hours in type. (see AOPA ASF Nall Report).

35% of the total pilot population hold Private Pilot certificates. 48% of the GA accidents occur to Private Pilots. 55% of our Lancair accidents involve Private Pilots.

Jeff




-----Original Message-----
From: vtailjeff@aol.com
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 6:09 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Safety in our Community of Lancairs

Here is more food for thought.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Giffen Marr <gamarr@charter.net>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 7:07 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Safety in our Community of Lancairs

Jeff
What is the vertical scale??
Giff
 
From: vtailjeff@aol.com [mailto:vtailjeff@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 7:03 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: Safety in our Community of Lancairs
 
Here is a pretty sobering chart.

Jeff
 
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