X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:51:47 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.38] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.10) with ESMTP id 3282056 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:01:51 -0500 Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id q.cf2.45aa4da0 (37122) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 13:01:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail-mf05 (webmail-mf05.webmail.aol.com [64.12.88.218]) by cia-ma01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.6) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA018-91024915d40c33c; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:01:48 -0500 References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Safety in our Community of Lancairs X-Original-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:01:48 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.85.153.156 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB0FE3346E3E5D_D58_35_webmail-mf05.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD Received: from 71.85.153.156 by webmail-mf05.sysops.aol.com (64.12.88.218) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:01:48 -0500 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CB0FE33464B4E5-D58-19@webmail-mf05.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO ----------MB_8CB0FE3346E3E5D_D58_35_webmail-mf05.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am going ot contact Marv and see if he has the old members list-- that would tell us quickly and roughly the per centages. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Ken To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 9:10 am Subject: [LML] Re: Safety in our Community of Lancairs Jeff, ? >>35% of the total pilot population?hold Private Pilot certificates. 48% of the GA accidents occur to Private Pilots. 55% of our Lancair accidents involve Private Pilots.<< Any way of knowing what % of Lancair pilots are private, comm, etc?? If private pilots make up 40% of Lancair pilots then the Lancair rates for private pilots are the same as over all GA. ? Ken Kellner ----- Original Message ----- From: vtailjeff@aol.com To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Safety in our Community of Lancairs More numbers: 57% of our Lancair accidents involve pilots with less than 100 hours in the Lancair model. 40% of the Lancair accident pilots had less than 50 hours in type at the time of the accident. The GA number for the last 3 years according to the Nall report is between 43 and 47% of the accident pilots had less than 100 hours in type. (see AOPA ASF Nall Report). 35% of the total pilot population?hold Private Pilot certificates. 48% of the GA accidents occur to Private Pilots. 55% of our Lancair accidents involve Private Pilots. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: vtailjeff@aol.com To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 6:09 pm Subject: [LML] Re: Safety in our Community of Lancairs Here is more food for thought. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Giffen Marr To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 7:07 pm Subject: [LML] Re: Safety in our Community of Lancairs Jeff What is the vertical scale?? Giff ? From: vtailjeff@aol.com [mailto:vtailjeff@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 7:03 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Safety in our Community of Lancairs ? Here is a pretty sobering chart. Jeff ? McCain or Obama? Stay up to date on the latest from the campaign trail with AOL News. Instant access to the latest & most popular FREE games while you browse with the Games Toolbar - Download Now! -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html Instant access to the latest & most popular FREE games while you browse with the Games Toolbar - Download Now! ----------MB_8CB0FE3346E3E5D_D58_35_webmail-mf05.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I am going ot contact Marv and see if he has the old members list-- that would tell us quickly and roughly the per centages.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Ken <kkellner1@new.rr.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 9:10 am
Subject: [LML] Re: Safety in our Community of Lancairs

Jeff,
 
>>35% of the total pilot population hold Private Pilot certificates. 48% of the GA accidents occur to Private Pilots. 55% of our Lancair accidents involve Private Pilots.<<
Any way of knowing what % of Lancair pilots are private, comm, etc?  If private pilots make up 40% of Lancair pilots then the Lancair rates for private pilots are the same as over all GA.
 
Ken Kellner
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Safety in our Community of Lancairs

More numbers:

57% of our Lancair accidents involve pilots with less than 100 hours in the Lancair model. 40% of the Lancair accident pilots had less than 50 hours in type at the time of the accident. The GA number for the last 3 years according to the Nall report is between 43 and 47% of the accident pilots had less than 100 hours in type. (see AOPA ASF Nall Report).

35% of the total pilot population hold Private Pilot certificates. 48% of the GA accidents occur to Private Pilots. 55% of our Lancair accidents involve Private Pilots.

Jeff




-----Original Message-----
From: vtailjeff@aol.com
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 6:09 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Safety in our Community of Lancairs

Here is more food for thought.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Giffen Marr <gamarr@charter.net>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 7:07 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Safety in our Community of Lancairs

Jeff
What is the vertical scale??
Giff
 
From: vtailjeff@aol.com [mailto:vtailjeff@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 7:03 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: Safety in our Community of Lancairs
 
Here is a pretty sobering chart.

Jeff
 
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