X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:14:00 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [64.98.42.135] (HELO smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.8) with ESMTP id 3191370 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:14:59 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.98.42.135; envelope-from=rmitch1@hughes.net Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay01.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C6F4B92B0 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:14:22 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 50,3,0,18a34e9c8a5c40d4,1ade6e1b0c1eba5f,rmitch1@hughes.net,,RULES_HIT:1:2:10:75:82:355:379:539:541:542:599:800:877:945:960:962:967:972:973:980:983:988:989:1021:1029:1155:1160:1189:1208:1221:1260:1308:1309:1313:1314:1345:1359:1424:1431:1436:1437:1515:1516:1517:1521:1575:1588:1589:1592:1594:1691:1730:1776:1792:2194:2199:2525:2528:2551:2552:2553:2561:2567:2682:2685:2857:2859:2892:2899:2900:2902:2907:2917:2924:2926:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3355:3585:3586:3636:3742:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:4051:4321:4379:5007:6117:6119:6248:6300:7520:7576:7679:7688:7746:7903:8518:8583:8603:8957:9010:9025:9080:9160,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none Received: from SonyVaioSZ (dpc6935104091.direcpc.com [69.35.104.91]) (Authenticated sender: rmitch1@hughes.net) by omf11.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:14:17 +0000 (UTC) From: "Robert Mitchell" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] N329BW Albany Oregon February 8, 2008 Probable Cause X-Original-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:14:10 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <81C8930B1571430A88A2F13DF5151CA5@SonyVaioSZ> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_028F_01C9221C.235D3730" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Thread-Index: Ackh5Wo3hyvMqy51TjC1zrvMbnxjyAAX+oAw X-session-marker: 726D6974636831406875676865732E6E6574 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_028F_01C9221C.235D3730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I count at least 5 major violations of the FAR's. Wonder how many he would have received if by miracle he survived? Bob Mitchell Lancair 320 _____ From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of VTAILJEFF@aol.com Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 10:43 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] N329BW Albany Oregon February 8, 2008 Probable Cause "Accident occurred Friday, February 08, 2008 in Albany, OR Probable Cause Approval Date: 9/26/2008 Aircraft: Wooters Lancair ES, registration: N329BW Injuries: 3 Fatal. The non-instrument rated, private pilot filed an instrument flight plan for a cross-country flight, in an airplane not equipped for in-flight icing encounters. The pilot was seated in the right seat, and the airplane's owner, also a non-instrument rated private pilot, was seated in the left seat. Family members indicated that the pilot and the owner/pilot flew together often, and the right seat pilot would provide radio and navigation assistance to the owner/pilot. Based on the available evidence, investigators were unable to determine who was flying the airplane at the time of the accident. The airplane was cleared to climb to 13,000 feet, and approximately 8 minutes after departure, declared an emergency and was lost from radar. Data obtained from instrumentation on board the airplane indicated that after attaining approximately 10,400 feet, the airplane entered a rapid descent. Weather information at the time of the accident showed that icing conditions were forecast along the route of flight. Records show multiple weather information requests from the right seat pilot's computer log-on information to a digital weather service provider the night prior to the accident, and the left seat owner/pilot received a weather briefing via telephone the night prior to the accident. All briefings indicated that visual flight rules to marginal visual flight rules conditions were forecast, and there were airman's meteorological information (AIRMETs) advisories for mountain obscuration, icing, and turbulence. The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows: The pilot-in-command's failure to maintain aircraft control while in cruise flight. Contributing to the accident were inadequate planning/decision, icing conditions, and continued flight into known icing conditions." Not a real good reflection on these guys. The owner pilot was on anti depressants and the aircraft was overdue for its condition inspection as well..... Jeff _____ Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. ------=_NextPart_000_028F_01C9221C.235D3730 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I count at least 5 major violations = of the FAR’s.  Wonder how many he would have received if by miracle = he survived?

Bob = Mitchell

Lancair = 320

 

From: = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of VTAILJEFF@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, September = 28, 2008 10:43 PM
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] N329BW = Albany Oregon February 8, 2008 Probable Cause

 

"Accident occurred Friday, = February 08, 2008 in Albany, OR
Probable Cause Approval Date: 9/26/2008
Aircraft: Wooters Lancair ES, registration: N329BW
Injuries: 3 Fatal.

The non-instrument rated, private = pilot filed an instrument flight plan for a cross-country flight, in an = airplane not equipped for in-flight icing = encounters. The pilot was seated in the right seat, and the = airplane's owner, also a non-instrument rated private pilot, was seated in the left = seat. Family members indicated that the pilot and the owner/pilot flew = together often, and the right seat pilot would provide radio and navigation = assistance to the owner/pilot. Based on the available evidence, investigators were = unable to determine who was flying the airplane at the time of the accident. = The airplane was cleared to climb to 13,000 feet, and approximately 8 = minutes after departure, declared an emergency and was lost from radar. Data obtained = from instrumentation on board the airplane indicated that after attaining approximately 10,400 feet, the airplane entered a rapid descent. Weather = information at the time of the accident showed that icing conditions were forecast = along the route of flight. Records show multiple weather information requests = from the right seat pilot's computer log-on information to a digital weather = service provider the night prior to the accident, and the left seat owner/pilot received a weather briefing via telephone the night prior to the = accident. All briefings indicated that visual flight rules to marginal visual flight = rules conditions were forecast, and there were airman's meteorological = information (AIRMETs) advisories for mountain obscuration, icing, and turbulence. =

The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows: =

The pilot-in-command's failure to maintain aircraft control while in cruise flight. Contributing to the = accident were inadequate planning/decision, icing conditions, and continued = flight into known icing conditions."

 

=

Not a real good reflection on = these guys. The owner pilot was on anti depressants and the aircraft was overdue for = its condition inspection as well.....

 

=

Jeff

 

Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and = calculators.

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