X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:14:00 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp121.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.64.94] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.8) with SMTP id 3191547 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:41:52 -0400 Received: (qmail 74427 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2008 16:41:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:Importance; b=MhiILRzWH6y8CQP1Qy+VW8t5ktPkfdSs08iYh5Eu6CN+BVdjQ11m22p8vwHwP6231fVwsRmw0czm6rSP4tbf/o8OJPaevM1sbBAhADkGDVh1MJOGNSGGGnBIz+DR7yCImw9ERijlT6TMtV2eWBomAduCjezAgBwIp+Mt4uiGEmQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Sam) (n98pb@75.42.1.235 with login) by smtp121.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2008 16:41:49 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: QWgKqlMVM1l.uaQs1VmBxr6GvhVyfszUL.zhKtOAZh3INpP772q_OyG.bocSSOhPJe5eXBRt.Ba_Kr2uJkW8IqmgAMfvBHWOMl2dNRplyvOzNvDHpJpjI0.OXZNtxJfI54QSuoOdOPunYbifu9VDj_gJWPPcwxAmLvgZ4kmLYTggntYqeg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: RE: [LML] Door seal 4P X-Original-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:41:49 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <006a01c92252$453fedd0$0201a8c0@Sam> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006B_01C92217.98E115D0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Ackhje72iSTeKHZbRtax6T81UjAjmgAw++8g In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C92217.98E115D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ralf Moving the pump to the door is a great idea and is quite easy. The = newest installations I've seen have it mounted in the top aft corner of the = door with a custom cover made to hide it. The electric is easily handled = with power inside the tunnel and a van type contact in the door. The = stainless steel tube arrangement was never very elegant. Hope this helps. Pat Brunner =20 -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of bronnenmeier@GROBSYSTEMS.COM Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 10:16 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Door seal 4P =20 Dear subscribers, =20 I am working on rebuilding an older 4P kit (serial #207). =20 The pressure pump for the door seal is located in the fuselage. The = pressure line runs along the door and runs through a steel tubing that moves in = and out of a grommet when the door moves. I suspect that this is a possible source of pressure loss in the cabin. =20 I saw on pictures of newer models that there are contacts in top of the = door that obviously feed power to the pump (looks like the pump is now in the door). =20 I am wondering if I should move my pump and the pressure switch for the = door seal in the door. What would be the best way to get the electric power = in the door - should I run a cable from the door to the fuselage or should = I go with this switch that makes contact when the door closes. I would need 4 wires (2 for the pump and 2 for the switch). =20 Thanks for your advise. =20 Ralf Bronnenmeier 1070 Navajo Drive Bluffton, OH 45817 Phone: (419) 369 12 33 Fax: (419) 369 33 32 E-mail: bronnenmeier@grobsystems.com =20 ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C92217.98E115D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ralf

Moving the pump to the door is a = great idea and is quite easy. The newest installations I’ve seen = have it mounted in the top aft corner of the door with a custom cover made to = hide it. The electric is easily handled with power inside the tunnel = and a van type contact in the door. The stainless steel tube = arrangement was never very elegant. Hope this helps.

Pat Brunner

-----Original = Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing = List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of bronnenmeier@GROBSYSTEMS.COM
Sent: Sunday, September = 28, 2008 10:16 AM
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Door seal = 4P

Dear = subscribers,

I am working on rebuilding = an older 4P kit (serial #207).

The pressure pump for the = door seal is located in the fuselage. The pressure line runs along the door and = runs through a steel tubing that moves in and out of a grommet when the door = moves. I suspect that this is a possible source of pressure loss in the = cabin.

I saw on pictures of newer = models that there are contacts in top of the door that obviously feed power to = the pump (looks like the pump is now in the door).

I am wondering if I should = move my pump and the pressure switch for the door seal in the door. What would = be the best way to get the electric power in the door – should I run a = cable from the door to the fuselage or should I go with this switch that makes contact when the door closes. I would need 4 wires (2 for the pump and 2 = for the switch).

Thanks for your = advise.

Ralf = Bronnenmeier

1070 Navajo = Drive

Bluffton, OH = 45817

Phone: (419) 369 12 = 33

Fax: = (419) 369 33 32

E-mail: = bronnenmeier@grobsystems.com

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