X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:27:58 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.32] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.7) with ESMTP id 3125239 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:04:26 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.62.32; envelope-from=mjrav@comcast.net Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DYrC1a01Q0xGWP853d3pMZ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:03:49 +0000 Received: from mjr ([71.233.32.130]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Dd3n1a0082oTP2X3Yd3p70; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:03:49 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=V-dFKNCNiZsA:10 a=NlQ50QlY3t0A:10 a=dt5VV7eIStukupwsgFUA:9 a=JTbBqzMqbxWcFSzssO_KukKnLloA:4 a=4n5_rRQn6oAA:10 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 a=Xm-6bQi4AAAA:8 a=1_giWC8fL34ZJ2Kh5B0A:9 a=RQgWM9kDOK6ZMwyWEkEA:7 a=4MAEQHXjEKCBS69f9bszsLe88OIA:4 a=ct1jHBItfXcA:10 X-Original-Message-ID: <009801c91473$b28a6a60$8220e947@mjr> From: "Mark Ravinski" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Lancair Accidents - Another Perspective X-Original-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:05:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0095_01C91452.2B4DE9D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C91452.2B4DE9D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Scott, They say a picture is worth a thousand words. Come visit me here in New England and I'll give you the big picture. =20 Then you can write the thousand words. By the time you get back to mid continent, you'll be that much closer to = "safety". You've got my number Mark - =20 The CFII further said that, =E2=80=9CAll spins are pilot = induced.=E2=80=9D I suppose so, as the AOA increased it is likely that = right rudder is used to offset P-factor. If these two forces are not = balanced at the stall the plane probably falls off to one side or the = other. Perhaps one of our aerobatic 300 series brethren could comment = further (Mark?) as I don=E2=80=99t do stalls or spins. Having no = experience entering a Lancair spin, upon entering one I would = simultaneously pull the power and momentarily cover my eyes =E2=80=93 = this would seem to be correct as both hands would be off the controls = for a bit. I guess I should still await comment from those more = experienced (that=E2=80=99s easy, isn=E2=80=99t it?). The real issue = with slick Lancairs is how quick they are at leaving a safe flight = regime and then how quick they are at furthering the depth of any = abnormal flight regime. =20 And other obscure performance puzzles. Grayhawk Only 70 hours more to safety. =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the = latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C91452.2B4DE9D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF

Hi Scott,

They say a picture is worth a thousand words.

Come visit me here in New England and I'll give you the big = picture. =20

Then you can write the thousand words.

By the time you get back to mid continent, you'll be that much = closer to=20 "safety".

You've got my number

Mark

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The CFII further = said that,=20 =E2=80=9CAll spins are pilot induced.=E2=80=9D I=20 suppose so, as the AOA increased it is likely that right = rudder is used=20 to offset P-factor. If these two forces are not balanced at the stall = the=20 plane probably falls off to one side or the other. Perhaps one of our aerobatic = 300=20 series brethren could comment further (Mark?) as I don=E2=80=99t do = stalls or=20 spins. Having no = experience=20 entering a Lancair spin, upon entering one I would simultaneously pull = the=20 power and momentarily cover my eyes =E2=80=93 this would seem to be = correct as both=20 hands would be off the controls for a bit. I guess I should still await = comment=20 from those more experienced (that=E2=80=99s easy, isn=E2=80=99t it?). = The real issue with slick = Lancairs is=20 how quick they are at leaving a safe flight regime and then how quick = they are=20 at furthering the depth of any abnormal flight regime.

And = other obscure=20 performance puzzles.

Grayhawk

Only 70 hours more = to=20 safety.

Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall = trends and hair=20 styles at StyleList.com.

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