X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:04:07 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.7) with ESMTP id 3124463 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:15:37 -0400 Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id q.d4c.2e158e7c (37043) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:15:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.146]) by cia-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB031-90b348c944232ce; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:15:31 -0400 Received: from FWM-M14 (fwm-m14.webmail.aol.com [64.12.168.78]) by smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA031-5bba48c9441b1a4; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:15:23 -0400 References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Lancair Accidents X-Original-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:15:23 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 216.191.6.130 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CAE240BA7AA13E_1E5C_A50_FWM-M14.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38575-STANDARD Received: from 216.191.6.130 by FWM-M14.sysops.aol.com (64.12.168.78) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:15:23 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CAE240BA737A33-1E5C-50C@FWM-M14.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO ----------MB_8CAE240BA7AA13E_1E5C_A50_FWM-M14.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" We did not practice stalls to departure in the A-6 Intruder. Why? Lost too m= any=C2=A0 practicing stalls to departure. Jeff Sep 2008 8:24 pm Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair Accidents Air Force and most probably Navy and Marine fighter pilots spend at lot of t= ime right at the edge. They'd laugh at this discussion. To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:40:10 -0400 From: chatdaniel@centurybankonline.com Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair Accidents How many times do you put your hand in a flame before you know it burns you?= =C2=A0 Do airline pilots practice stalling a 747?=C2=A0 Do Air Force pilots=20= practice stalling the Raptor? =C2=A0 Chat Daniel President & CEO Century Bank & Trust email:=C2=A0 chatdaniel@centurybankonline.com (478) 453-3571 =C2=A0 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email transmission may contain information that= is proprietary, privileged, and/or confidential and is intended exclusively= for the person(s) to whom it is addressed.=C2=A0 This communication represe= nts the originator=E2=80=99s personal views and opinions, which do not neces= sarily reflect those of Century Bank & Trust. This email and its attachments= are believed to be free of any virus or defect, but it is the responsibilit= y of the recipient to ensure that this is true.=C2=A0 Century Bank does not=20= accept responsibility or liability for any loss or damage arising in any way= from the receipt or use of this email or for any errors or omissions in its= contents which may arise as a result of its transmission.=C2=A0 Any u se, copying, retention or disclosure by any person other than the intended r= ecipient or the intended recipient=E2=80=99s designees is strictly prohibite= d.=C2=A0 If you are the intended recipient, you must treat the information i= n confidence and in accordance with all laws related to the privacy and conf= identiality of such information.=C2=A0 If you are not the intended recipient= or their designee, please notify the sender immediately by return email and= delete all copies of this email, including all attachments.=C2=A0 Thank You= . =C2=A0 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill=20= Kennedy Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:35 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair Accidents =C2=A0 Question: "Why would you want to practice stalling a plane such as a IVP or IVPT that=20= is quick to enter a spin and may or may not be recoverable?" Answer: For the same reason you must demonstrate stalls to get your pilots license a= nd to do your bi-annual flight review: So you will recognize the approaching= loss of control and take to proper action. It's so much easier to learn at=20= 3000' AGL than at 100' AGL on short final with your wife and kids aboard. Got another question for you. Would you really fly an airplane that would ki= ll you as soon as you got close to a stall? Every landing would be a nail bi= ter. =C2=A0 =3D=20 ----------MB_8CAE240BA7AA13E_1E5C_A50_FWM-M14.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" We did not practice stalls to departure in the A-6 Intruder. Why? Lost too m= any  practicing stalls to departure.

Jeff







Sep 2008 8:24 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair Accidents

Air Force and most probably Navy and Marine fighter pilots spend at lot of t= ime right at the edge. They'd laugh at this discussion.

To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:40:10 -0400
From: chatdaniel@century= bankonline.com
Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair Accidents

How many times do you put your han= d in a flame before you know it burns you?  Do airline pilots practice=20= stalling a 747?  Do Air Force pilots practice stalling the Raptor?
 
Chat Daniel
President & CEO
Century Bank & Trust
email:  chatdaniel@centurybankonline.com
(478) 453-3571
 
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email= transmission may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, and/o= r confidential and is intended exclusively for the person(s) to whom it is a= ddressed.  This communication represents the originator=E2=80=99s perso= nal views and opinions, which do not necessarily reflect those of Century Ba= nk & Trust. This email and its attachments are believed to be free of an= y virus or defect, but it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure t= hat this is true.  Century Bank does not accept responsibility or liabi= lity for any loss or damage arising in any way from the receipt or use of th= is email or for any errors or omissions in its contents which may arise as a= result of its transmission.  Any use, copying, retention or disclosure= by any person other than the intended recipient or the intended recipient= =E2=80=99s designees is strictly prohibited.  If you are the intended r= ecipient, you must treat the information in confidence and in accordance wit= h all laws related to the privacy and confidentiality of such information.&n= bsp; If you are not the intended recipient or their designee, please notify=20= the sender immediately by return email and delete all copies of this email,=20= including all attachments.  Thank You.
 
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill= Kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:35 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair Accidents
 
Question:

= "Why would you want to practice stalling a plane such as a IVP or IVPT that=20= is quick to enter a spin and may or may not be recoverable?"

Answer:

For the same reason you must demonstrate stalls to get your pilots license a= nd to do your bi-annual flight review: So you will recognize the approaching= loss of control and take to proper action. It's so much easier to learn at=20= 3000' AGL than at 100' AGL on short final with your wife and kids aboard.
Got another question for you. Would you really fly an airplane that wou ld kill you as soon as you got close to a stall? Every landing would be a na= il biter.
 
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