X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:30:14 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.37] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.7) with ESMTP id 3118816 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:39:08 -0400 Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id q.c0a.449daf5d (48576) for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:39:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:40:20 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Lancair Accidents X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1220834420" X-Mailer: Unknown sub 34 X-Spam-Flag:NO -------------------------------1220834420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bryan, Take a deep breath and assume the lotus position - this requires familiarity with Zen. First, there are more Honda Civics extant than all of the planes in the USA. The pool is enormous and automobile insurance premiums are based on the vehicle cost, repair costs, vehicle age, driver's age, driver's accident history, where on the mean streets the critter is located and how many other Civics you are insuring. Hmmm, these are sorta aircraft insurance considerations except for the quantity. If accident related payouts for the Lancair pool are greater than the premium receipts, it is useful business sense to raise the rate and suggest operator qualifications that lower their risk (time in type, inst rating, certain training). Hmmm, I think car grouping pools are done the same way. The insurance industry has more impact on safety (pilot or aircraft type) than the FAA ever would or could. Please consider your certification as a pilot the barest minimum requirement - and no psychological testing was done other than the AME determining that you merely appeared sane. There is no judgement test although the insurance companies may be considering the development of such a test. I don't know about you, but I feel better now. Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96 Aurora, IL (KARR) Pilot not TSO'd, Certificated score only > 70%. In a message dated 9/7/2008 5:09:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, vonjet@gmail.com writes: Insurance companies raising rates on the Lancair line-up because of a high number of accidents shouldn't be allowed unless all the accidents or majority of them can be blamed on the actual aircraft and not the pilot. And the FAA putting pressure on Lancair to do something about it is another F'd up concept. Its not Lancair's problem what people do with their product after its been released to the client. They are providing a High performance kit aircraft that anyone can build. Making them police all the pilots who fly them is just another case of the FAA putting all their responsibilities onto someone else. If the FAA wants people to stop crashing Lancairs then they should figure out a resolution themselves. Car insurance companies dont raise the rates on Honda Civics or Acura Integras because all the street racers use them illegally and crash them more often than other cars. The DOT doesn't go to Yamaha and put pressure on them to make their streetbikes safer and required mandatory training to ride it. Just venting. Bryan **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) -------------------------------1220834420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bryan,
 
Take a deep breath and assume the lotus position - this requires=20 familiarity with Zen.  First, there are more Honda Civics extant than a= ll=20 of the planes in the USA.  The pool is enormous and automobile=20 insurance premiums are based on the vehicle cost, repair costs, vehicle= =20 age, driver's age, driver's accident history, where on the mean=20 streets the critter is located and how many other Civics you are=20 insuring.  Hmmm, these are sorta aircraft insurance considerations= =20 except for the quantity.
 
If accident related payouts for the Lancair pool are greater than the=20 premium receipts, it is useful business sense to raise the rate and suggest=20 operator qualifications that lower their risk (time in type, inst rating,=20 certain training).  Hmmm, I think car grouping pools are done the same=20 way.
 
The insurance industry has more impact on safety (pilot or aircraft typ= e)=20 than the FAA ever would or could.  Please consider your certification a= s a=20 pilot the barest minimum requirement - and no psychological testing was done= =20 other than the AME determining that you merely appeared sane.  There is= no=20 judgement test although the insurance companies may be considering the=20 development of such a test. 
 
I don't know about you, but I feel better now.
 
Scott Krueger=20 AKA Grayhawk
Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96
Aurora, IL (KARR)

Pil= ot=20 not TSO'd, Certificated score only > 70%.
 
In a message dated 9/7/2008 5:09:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 vonjet@gmail.com writes:
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Insurance companies raising rates on the Lancair line-up be= cause=20 of a high number of accidents shouldn't be allowed unless all the accident= s or=20 majority of them can be blamed on the actual aircraft and not the pilot.&n= bsp;=20
And the FAA putting pressure on Lancair to do something about it is=20 another F'd up concept.  Its not Lancair's problem what people do wit= h=20 their product after its been released to the client. They are providing a=20= High=20 performance kit aircraft that anyone can build.  Making them police a= ll=20 the pilots who fly them is just another case of the FAA putting all their=20 responsibilities onto someone else.  If the FAA wants people to stop=20 crashing Lancairs then they should figure out a resolution themselves.
Car insurance companies dont raise the rates on Honda Civics or Acura= =20 Integras because all the street racers use them illegally and crash them m= ore=20 often than other cars.
The DOT doesn't go to Yamaha and put pressure on them to make their=20 streetbikes safer and required mandatory training to ride it.  
Just venting.
Bryan  =20
 


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