X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 18:08:38 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta21.charter.net ([216.33.127.81] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.7) with ESMTP id 3115681 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:22:52 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.33.127.81; envelope-from=troneill@charter.net Received: from aarprv06.charter.net ([10.20.200.76]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.03.00 201-2186-126-20070710) with ESMTP id <20080905142217.EPKI9229.mta21.charter.net@aarprv06.charter.net> for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:22:17 -0400 Received: from axs ([75.132.241.174]) by aarprv06.charter.net with SMTP id <20080905142217.HBKP29012.aarprv06.charter.net@axs> for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:22:17 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <010a01c90f62$ce406c70$6401a8c0@axs> From: "terrence o'neill" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: 51% rule X-Original-Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:22:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0107_01C90F38.E4FC6060" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Chzlrs: 0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0107_01C90F38.E4FC6060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rob, I've heard that a Type Certificate is no defense as to reliability and = safety in a court case. Witness the huge judgements against the major spam cans a few decades = ago, which put GenAv out of business until the legislators finally put a = cap in liability. Safety and reliability comes from aircraft design, first, and is = prerequisiete to achieving any safety and reliability from more = training. Pilots love to talk about the benefits of more training, i think, = because they don't knwo much about im prov ing aircraft design. But = design comes first. Terrence L235/320 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: rwolf99@aol.com=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:48 PM Subject: [LML] Re: 51% rule Bill Hannahan writes: <<=E2=80=9CWell senator, that jet is twice as fast as this Baron, much = more reliable, more comfortable, safer, quieter, easier to maintain, = easier to fly, better instrumented and burns less fuel, but it=E2=80=99s = not certified, and we are not allowed to use non certified aircraft for = business.=E2=80=9D >> Sorry, Bill. It might actually be more reliable but there's no = guarantee on that. Same goes for safety. FAR Part 23 guarantees a = certain level of reliability and safety. Experimentals do not. That's = why they are not allowed to be used for hire. - Rob Wolf -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Get the MapQuest Toolbar. Directions, Traffic, Gas Prices & More! No virus found in this outgoing message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (4.0.0.26 - 10.072.012). http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/ ------=_NextPart_000_0107_01C90F38.E4FC6060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Rob,
 
I've heard that a = Type=20 Certificate is no defense as to reliability and safety in a court=20 case.
Witness the huge = judgements=20 against the major spam cans a few decades ago, which put GenAv out of = business=20 until the legislators finally put a cap in liability.
Safety and = reliability comes=20 from aircraft design, first, and is prerequisiete to achieving any = safety and=20 reliability from more training.
Pilots love to talk = about the=20 benefits of more training, i think, because they don't knwo much about = im prov=20 ing aircraft design. But design comes first.
Terrence
L235/320
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From:=20 rwolf99@aol.com=20
Sent: Thursday, September 04, = 2008 11:48=20 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: 51% = rule

Bill Hannahan writes:

<<=E2=80=9CWell = senator, that jet is=20 twice as fast as this Baron, much more reliable, more comfortable, = safer,=20 quieter, easier to maintain, easier to fly, better instrumented and = burns less=20 fuel, but it=E2=80=99s not certified, and we are not allowed to use = non certified=20 aircraft for business.=E2=80=9D >>

Sorry, Bill.  It = might actually=20 be more reliable but there's no guarantee on that.  Same goes for = safety.  FAR Part 23 guarantees a = certain level=20 of reliability and safety.  Experimentals do not.  That's = why they=20 are not allowed to be used for hire.

- Rob Wolf

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