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-----Original Message-----
From: terrence o'neill <troneill@charter.net>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:37 am
Subject: [LML] Re: Clearing up some information about the Legacy accident.



Did the aircraft have an AOA?

Terrence

N211AL L235/320


----- Original Message ----- 

From: Bill Kennedy 

To: lml@lancaironline.net 

Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:37 PM

Subject: [LML] Re: Clearing up some information about the Legacy accident.




"...upside down at about 45 degree angle" sure sounds like a full stall with a snap roll, just like mine would do if I didn't know how to recognize and recover from the situation before it turned so bad. What else could do it?


To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:41:51 -0400
From: cfi@instructor.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Clearing up some information about the Legacy accident.


Another article that was circulating said they caught a wing and tumbled on landing.? That just isn't true.? They impacted the ground totally upside down at about 45 degree angle and slid 140'.? The impact zone and debris field was lined up with the runway, so was not a base to final stall spin.? The engine was developing power by the look of the prop blades, all control surfaces were intact and the flaps were fully deployed and appeared to be down the same amount.??The speedbrakes were slightly deployed the same on each wing, but I suppose?that might have been because of the high impact.? The wings were still attached, and actually the entire airframe was basically still together.?? I was?at the?crash site?(with the?NTSB guys) with Joe?just after the accident.? The NTSB will release a preliminary report next week.? 

??? 

?

Ron Galbraith



>Geez, there is so much dis-information that gets sprinkled around the net,
>it's just amazing.






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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: terrence o'neill &lt;troneill@charter.net&gt;<br>
To: lml@lancaironline.net<br>
Sent: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:37 am<br>
Subject: [LML] Re: Clearing up some information about the Legacy accident.<br>
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<div><FONT face="MS Reference Sans Serif">Did the aircraft have an AOA?</FONT></div>


<div><FONT face="MS Reference Sans Serif">Terrence</FONT></div>


<div><FONT face="MS Reference Sans Serif">N211AL L235/320</FONT></div>

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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 04, 2008 10:37 PM</div>


<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [LML] Re: Clearing up some information about the Legacy accident.</div>


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<div style="TEXT-ALIGN: left">"...upside down at about 45 degree angle" sure sounds like a full stall with a snap roll, just like mine would do if I didn't know how to recognize and recover from the situation before it turned so bad. What else could do it?<br>
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To: <A href="mailto:lml@lancaironline.net">lml@lancaironline.net</A><br>
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:41:51 -0400<br>
From: <A href="mailto:cfi@instructor.net">cfi@instructor.net</A><br>
Subject: [LML] Re: Clearing up some information about the Legacy accident.<br>
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<div>Another article that was circulating said they caught a wing and tumbled on landing.&nbsp; That just isn't true.&nbsp; They impacted the ground totally upside down at about 45 degree angle and slid 140'.&nbsp; The impact zone and debris field was lined up with the runway, so was not a base to final stall spin.&nbsp; The engine was developing power by the look of the prop blades, all control surfaces were intact and the flaps were fully deployed and appeared to be down the same amount.&nbsp;&nbsp;The speedbrakes were slightly deployed the same on each wing, but I suppose&nbsp;that might have been because of the high impact.&nbsp; The wings were still attached, and actually the entire airframe was basically still together.&nbsp;&nbsp; I was&nbsp;at the&nbsp;crash site&nbsp;(with the&nbsp;NTSB guys) with Joe&nbsp;just after the accident.&nbsp; The NTSB will release a preliminary report next week.&nbsp; </div>


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<div>Ron Galbraith<br>
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&gt;Geez, there is so much dis-information that gets sprinkled around the net,<br>
&gt;it's just amazing.<br>
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