X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:37:59 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web54406.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.49.136] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.6) with SMTP id 3061757 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:24:22 -0400 Received: (qmail 47358 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Aug 2008 04:24:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=fo08ujUMjPSkXnjggmJhmA9a5YOCP4nrrV9QFf958DIpUCD1esS9x62Ul5G0jb9avjr5TboxRKuYzKLXQnvcQfuGublJ9n6heOqVkTgsGN6oktzEO0OYKeU2arnzOUyYiJosjFvQc2kZj4JkI3Bs2pIxpj6pRL9b9kEiJpXEFwM=; Received: from [76.8.220.18] by web54406.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:24:22 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 X-Original-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 21:24:22 -0700 (PDT) From: randy snarr Reply-To: randylsnarr@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Finishing Costs X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-784539108-1217910262=:46618" X-Original-Message-ID: <614029.46618.qm@web54406.mail.yahoo.com> --0-784539108-1217910262=:46618 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bryan, It all depends on what kind or finish you are after. I spent 6 months working 3-4hours in the evenings and more on the weekends doing body work alone and then another 2 months at the painter to get a show quality surface to paint over.=20 1/3 of that time was learning the tricks of the trade and how it relates to= our airframes. It is easy to waste when not doing the right techniques. I have seen paint jobs run around $20k or more even when the airplane is in primer basically ready for paint. The sky is the limit on the body work. The paint is easy in comparrison to the surface prep. I would set a budget and live with the best job you can get with that money.=20 Don't let them grind away to get it flat as body workers do. You have to bu= ild up the lows not grind down the highs. The finish is not cheap but make sure you are making good progress. I probably worked for about .25 cents per hour on mine as I did not have $35 k to drop on finish...I probably could have gotten a 2nd job working for minimum wage and had someone else breathing the dust. Unfortunately no one will care as much as you do... FWIW Randy L. Snarr N694RS=20 --- On Mon, 8/4/08, vtailjeff@aol.com wrote: From: vtailjeff@aol.com Subject: [LML] Re: Finishing Costs To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 5:59 PM sounds high -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Wullner To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 7:46 pm Subject: [LML] Finishing Costs Taking a poll to see what dollar amounts you have spent in just finishing y= our birds.=A0 Only include micro fill, prime and paint work. I've been payi= ng to have someone do my 360 and so far I've spent over $9400 in labor and = its still does not have paint on it yet. Just trying to get an idea of wher= e I am.......overpaying, right on track, or underpaying. Thanks Bryan It's time to go back to school! Get the latest trends and gadgets that make= the grade on AOL Shopping.=20 =0A=0A=0A --0-784539108-1217910262=:46618 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Bryan,
It all depends on what kind or finish you are after. I spent 6 months working 3-4hours in the evenings and more on the weekends doing body work alone and then another 2 months at the painter to get a show quality surface to paint over.
1/3 of that time was learning the tricks of the trade and how it relates to our airframes.
It is easy to waste when not doing the right techniques. I have seen paint jobs run around $20k or more even when the airplane is in primer basically ready for paint. The sky is the limit on the body work. The paint is easy in comparrison to the surface prep. I would set a budget and live with the best job you can get with that money.

Don't let them grind away to get it flat as body workers do. You have to build up the lows not grind down the highs.

The finish is not cheap but make sure you are making good progress. I probably worked for about .25 cents per hour on mine as I did not have $35 k to drop on finish...I probably could have gotten a 2nd job working for minimum wage and had someone else breathing the dust. Unfortunately no one will care as much as you do...
FWIW
Randy L. Snarr
N694RS

--- On Mon, 8/4/08, vtailjeff@aol.com <vtailjeff@aol.com> wrote:
From: vtailjeff@aol.com <vtailjeff@aol.com>
Subject: [LML] Re: Finishing Costs
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 5:59 PM

sounds high


-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Wullner <vonjet@gmail.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 7:46 pm
Subject: [LML] Finishing Costs

Taking a poll to see what dollar amounts you have spent in just finishing your birds.  Only include micro fill, prime and paint work. I've been paying to have someone do my 360 and so far I've spent over $9400 in labor and its still does not have paint on it yet. Just trying to get an idea of where I am.......overpaying, right on track, or underpaying.

Thanks
Bryan

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