X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:37:59 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta31.charter.net ([216.33.127.82] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.6) with ESMTP id 3062180 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:18:01 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.33.127.82; envelope-from=troneill@charter.net Received: from aarprv06.charter.net ([10.20.200.76]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.03.00 201-2186-126-20070710) with ESMTP id <20080805131711.NIPG15793.mta31.charter.net@aarprv06.charter.net> for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:17:11 -0400 Received: from axs ([75.132.241.174]) by aarprv06.charter.net with SMTP id <20080805131711.OKGM570.aarprv06.charter.net@axs> for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:17:11 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <005501c8f6fd$9144e7b0$6401a8c0@axs> From: "terrence o'neill" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Clearing up some information about the Legacy accident. X-Original-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:17:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0052_01C8F6D3.A7E9F840" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Chzlrs: 0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C8F6D3.A7E9F840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Did the aircraft have an AOA? Terrence N211AL L235/320 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Kennedy=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:37 PM Subject: [LML] Re: Clearing up some information about the Legacy = accident. "...upside down at about 45 degree angle" sure sounds like a full = stall with a snap roll, just like mine would do if I didn't know how to = recognize and recover from the situation before it turned so bad. What = else could do it? -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:41:51 -0400 From: cfi@instructor.net Subject: [LML] Re: Clearing up some information about the Legacy = accident. Another article that was circulating said they caught a wing and = tumbled on landing. That just isn't true. They impacted the ground = totally upside down at about 45 degree angle and slid 140'. The impact = zone and debris field was lined up with the runway, so was not a base to = final stall spin. The engine was developing power by the look of the = prop blades, all control surfaces were intact and the flaps were fully = deployed and appeared to be down the same amount. The speedbrakes were = slightly deployed the same on each wing, but I suppose that might have = been because of the high impact. The wings were still attached, and = actually the entire airframe was basically still together. I was at = the crash site (with the NTSB guys) with Joe just after the accident. = The NTSB will release a preliminary report next week. =20 =20 Ron Galbraith >Geez, there is so much dis-information that gets sprinkled around the = net, >it's just amazing. ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C8F6D3.A7E9F840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Did the aircraft have an=20 AOA?
Terrence
N211AL L235/320
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bill Kennedy
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 = 10:37=20 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: Clearing up = some=20 information about the Legacy accident.

"...upside down at about 45 degree = angle" sure=20 sounds like a full stall with a snap roll, just like mine would do if = I didn't=20 know how to recognize and recover from the situation before it turned = so bad.=20 What else could do it?

To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: = Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:41:51 -0400
From: cfi@instructor.net
Subject: = [LML] Re:=20 Clearing up some information about the Legacy accident.

Another article that was circulating said they caught a wing and = tumbled=20 on landing.  That just isn't true.  They impacted the ground = totally=20 upside down at about 45 degree angle and slid 140'.  The impact = zone and=20 debris field was lined up with the runway, so was not a base to final = stall=20 spin.  The engine was developing power by the look of the prop = blades,=20 all control surfaces were intact and the flaps were fully deployed and = appeared to be down the same amount.  The speedbrakes were = slightly=20 deployed the same on each wing, but I suppose that might have = been=20 because of the high impact.  The wings were still attached, and = actually=20 the entire airframe was basically still together.   I = was at=20 the crash site (with the NTSB guys) with Joe just = after=20 the accident.  The NTSB will release a preliminary report next=20 week. 
   
 
Ron Galbraith



>Geez, there is so much = dis-information=20 that gets sprinkled around the net,
>it's just=20 amazing.


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