X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:37:59 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from col0-omc3-s15.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.153] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.6) with ESMTP id 3061615 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:51:35 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.34.153; envelope-from=bill_kennedy_3@hotmail.com Received: from COL104-W38 ([65.55.34.136]) by col0-omc3-s15.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:50:55 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: bill_kennedy_3@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_014b30c6-1e38-44fe-910b-f4c81d310fdd_" X-Originating-IP: [71.111.166.42] From: Bill Kennedy X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Clearing up some information about the Legacy accident. X-Original-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:50:55 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2008 00:50:55.0277 (UTC) FILETIME=[5130C5D0:01C8F695] --_014b30c6-1e38-44fe-910b-f4c81d310fdd_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "...upside down at about 45 degree angle" sure sounds like a full stall wit= h a snap roll=2C just like mine would do if I didn't know how to recognize = and recover from the situation before it turned so bad. What else could do = it? To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon=2C 4 Aug 2008 13:41:51 -0400 From: cfi@instructor.net Subject: [LML] Re: Clearing up some information about the Legacy accident. Another article that was circulating said they caught a wing and tumbled on= landing. That just isn't true. They impacted the ground totally upside d= own at about 45 degree angle and slid 140'. The impact zone and debris fie= ld was lined up with the runway=2C so was not a base to final stall spin. = The engine was developing power by the look of the prop blades=2C all contr= ol surfaces were intact and the flaps were fully deployed and appeared to b= e down the same amount. The speedbrakes were slightly deployed the same on= each wing=2C but I suppose that might have been because of the high impact= . The wings were still attached=2C and actually the entire airframe was ba= sically still together. I was at the crash site (with the NTSB guys) with= Joe just after the accident. The NTSB will release a preliminary report n= ext week. =0A= =0A= =0A= Ron Galbraith >Geez=2C there is so much dis-information that gets sprinkled around the ne= t=2C >it's just amazing. =0A= --_014b30c6-1e38-44fe-910b-f4c81d310fdd_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
"...upside dow= n at about 45 degree angle" sure sounds like a full stall with a snap roll= =2C just like mine would do if I didn't know how to recognize and recover f= rom the situation before it turned so bad. What else could do it?
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To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Mon=2C 4 = Aug 2008 13:41:51 -0400
From: cfi@instructor.net
Subject: [LML] Re: C= learing up some information about the Legacy accident.

Another = article that was circulating said they caught a wing and tumbled on landing= . =3B That just isn't true. =3B They impacted the ground totally up= side down at about 45 degree angle and slid 140'. =3B The impact zone a= nd debris field was lined up with the runway=2C so was not a base to final = stall spin. =3B The engine was developing power by the look of the prop= blades=2C all control surfaces were intact and the flaps were fully deploy= ed and appeared to be down the same amount. =3B =3BThe speedbrakes = were slightly deployed the same on each wing=2C but I suppose =3Bthat m= ight have been because of the high impact. =3B The wings were still att= ached=2C and actually the entire airframe was basically still together.&nbs= p=3B =3B I was =3Bat the =3Bcrash site =3B(with the =3B= NTSB guys) with Joe =3Bjust after the accident. =3B The NTSB will r= elease a preliminary report next week. =3B
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Ron Galbraith



>=3BGeez=2C there is so much dis-inform= ation that gets sprinkled around the net=2C
>=3Bit's just amazing.
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