X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [76.190.222.44] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 5.2.5) with HTTP id 3054552 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:52:05 -0400 From: marv@lancair.net Subject: Re: Clearing up some information about the Legacy accident. To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.2.5 Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:52:05 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <6452D2B39C66481E920DDBF7D2B8CDFD@highrf.com> References: <6452D2B39C66481E920DDBF7D2B8CDFD@highrf.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1;format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "Alan Adamson" : Geez, there is so much dis-information that gets sprinkled around the net, it's just amazing. So, I'm going to only stick to the facts around the airplane and offer nothing around the accident. While some may feel that speculation is good for non-repeat, I'm a little too close to this one and want to honor the spirit of those involved. First, this was not Larry Hayes' airplane, that one is alive and well, and in GA with me. It's just recently been sold and is under contract currently. Second, The one that Roger Bock and his friend were killed in was the only flying Carbon FG with IO-550. I have a second one that is being built and I've heard of others, but none of them are currently flying that I know of. It was originally built and purchased by a gentleman in Spain that wanted to fly it in and out of a 2500' runway over there, but decided against it and ultimately sold it to Roger. It was built at Lancair under the completion course program and first flew in Oct of 2005 while I was at build assist. As you might imagine I was very interested in it and it's performance. About a year ago, Roger bought it from the owner, and flew it back to Washington, PA. Later it was painted, and it's Registration number was changed to N515RB. I have no idea how much time Roger had in it, nor did I ever see it. I wanted to get up to his place and go for a ride, but never made it that far north. Roger was very active on the Legacy Builders Forum (http://www.highrf.com/forums) and had shared some performance numbers with us recently. From that I am to assume that he had flown it recently. He never voiced any concern publically about being "scared" of it, however, I knew he transitioned to it from many hours in a piper warrior. There was a claim that the airplane had come from Georgia, it did not, it came from Oregon, where Lancair was holding it for the buyer from Spain until it was sold to Roger. I however am in Georgia and did have Larry's airplane (an eglass FG with TNIO-360) on the market until it sold recently. But the two airplanes are entirely different and never met. I know there will be lots of desire to speculate on cause, etc. It's a very daunting experience going into OSH with these "fast glass" airplanes. I came in for my first time last year in a Legacy and thankfully, the fisk arrival allowed the use of the 135kt approach altitude and I had no slow traffic in front of me to negotiate with. Lastly, Rogers airplane was a steam gauge airplane, it did not have a dual Chelton system. It did have an AOA, and there was some discussion on the LBF about whether it was calibrated or not. Roger claimed that it was from the Factory (AFS not Lancair), and yet he'd never heard it go off on Landing. I just recently calibrated the one in Larry's airplane and set the flaps down slow airspeed to 75 kts (stall is 62 and 15% above that would pretty close to 75). I do hear the "angle, angle, push" on landing, pretty much right at touchdown. Hope this helps clear up some of the mis-information around this very sad event. He was a good man, and friend, and will be missed! Fly on Roger! Alan Adamson Atlanta, GA [ What role do experienced lancair pilots have to the rest of the community? http://rob.com/lancair/2007.08/Roger_Bock-Ferry-4738.jpg -Rob ]