X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 08:40:07 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.231] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.2) with ESMTP id 2892694 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 04 May 2008 07:16:12 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.249.82.231; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so492544wxd.25 for ; Sun, 04 May 2008 04:15:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=U+y4XiHwGBFvqcAOJTwqUmOLWWCYonqrRfawwaC0Pq5Zjqfzvh9JSzUBtvSAmeikQwK74n22oA3GGK6xXQFIHmopX9Lrnnxt2QezReZv+FSuFB6yTnLhlkw91YgTRpE14CZGBSH7hckfEW+oltmxfuQscvT1t0HRgHEV9PDfdB0= Received: by 10.70.47.1 with SMTP id u1mr5267136wxu.51.1209899732490; Sun, 04 May 2008 04:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.94.10 with HTTP; Sun, 4 May 2008 04:15:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Message-ID: <5cf132c0805040415p7f4c1226t666573eae6f9b2a1@mail.gmail.com> X-Original-Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 06:15:32 -0500 From: "Mark Steitle" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: IVP down in Mesa, AZ, 3 souls lost In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_16773_18105528.1209899732468" References: ------=_Part_16773_18105528.1209899732468 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline What color does 100LL turn if you mix in some Jet-A? Maybe we should add the "sniff test" to the preflight. We still take fuel samples as part of the preflight... right? Mark S. On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Tom Gourley wrote: > *isn't this the one the determined had been fueled with Jet-A instead of > 100LL... apparently the FBO had also fueled a 421 at the same time with > Jet-A, however it was caught prior to takeoff... I got this second hand so > perhaps it is not correct?* > > I don't know about the plane being misfueled, but this comment reminds me > of something I read a while back. The pilot of a Turbo-Skylane was > refueling while on a cross country trip and noticed the line guy was about > to pump Jet-A into his plane. When the pilot stopped him from pumping the > Jet-A the line guy, with a confused look on his face, said, "But it says > Turbo on the side. Don't all these Turbos use Jet-A?" A good reminder that > just because someone works around airplanes doesn't mean they know much > about them. Keep a close eye on the fuel truck. And having the word > "Turbo" prominently displayed on an airplane is not necessarily a good > thing. > > Tom Gourley > > ------=_Part_16773_18105528.1209899732468 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline What color does 100LL turn if you mix in some Jet-A?  Maybe we should add the "sniff test" to the preflight.  We still take fuel samples as part of the preflight... right? 

Mark S.

On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Tom Gourley <tom.gourley@verizon.net> wrote:
isn't this the one the determined had been fueled with Jet-A instead of 100LL... apparently the FBO had also fueled a 421 at the same time with Jet-A, however it was caught prior to takeoff... I got this second hand so perhaps it is not correct?
 
I don't know about the plane being misfueled, but this comment reminds me of something I read a while back.  The pilot of a Turbo-Skylane was refueling while on a cross country trip and noticed the line guy was about to pump Jet-A into his plane.  When the pilot stopped him from pumping the Jet-A the line guy, with a confused look on his face, said, "But it says Turbo on the side.  Don't all these Turbos use Jet-A?"  A good reminder that just because someone works around airplanes doesn't mean they know much about them.  Keep a close eye on the fuel truck.  And having the word "Turbo" prominently displayed on an airplane is not necessarily a good thing.
 
Tom Gourley
 

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