X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:44:48 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from bay0-omc2-s32.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.168] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.0) with ESMTP id 2725563 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:11:43 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.54.246.168; envelope-from=randystuart@hotmail.com Received: from hotmail.com ([65.55.139.17]) by bay0-omc2-s32.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:11:05 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:11:05 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: Received: from 68.183.63.181 by BAY134-DAV7.phx.gbl with DAV; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:11:02 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.183.63.181] X-Originating-Email: [randystuart@hotmail.com] X-Sender: randystuart@hotmail.com From: "Randy" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: [LML] Cold Induction X-Original-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:11:01 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_012E_01C86CD1.13CAED90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Feb 2008 01:11:05.0436 (UTC) FILETIME=[243621C0:01C86D14] X-Original-Return-Path: randystuart@hotmail.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_012E_01C86CD1.13CAED90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, since people want the information and pictures I'll give you what I = have so far. The pictures and be seen here: = http://members.dslextreme.com/users/netconn/Cold_Induction/ They don't seem to put them in order when I download them but they are = numbered. You can see the installation of the ECI system, the building = of the new pipes (321 Stainless), the cowling cuts and reconstruction, = etc.=20 This engine is an IO-360, with 10:1's, some valve work, dual exhaust and = a single EI. I've owned this plane for three years. Past performance was = a consistent 205 kts., 3500', 24", 2500 RPM. I now have only three = flights with the ECI system and the other changes. Preliminary = performance, so far has been, consistent 216 kts., 3500', 25", 2400 RPM. = The oil runs a little cooler, the CHT's are cooler and the EGT's are = very even (1380 deg's). The engine runs smoother with no hesitation at = all. Very obvious smooth power difference. The plane also appears to = fly a little more stable and lands a little better, this would be from = the weight loss and cowling changes.=20 Bare in mind....... I did more then just install this ECI Cold Induction = system. I removed weight, I removed friction, better flowing exhaust and = I've added more RAM pressure. The changes in the cowling also has a big = effect on the cooling, along with the direct RAM air effecting the = performance.=20 This ECI system is a newer design that was made to fit in tighter = places, like a Lancair cowl. I was asked by ECI to see if it fits and = works. Well, it fits and works. I still need more testing and more numbers to put together. But so far = I'm very impressed with the changes I've done and the ECI Cold Induction = system. I still need to test WOT and sea level flights to see what the = maximum MAP's are.=20 OK, the hard numbers... The cost of the ECI Cold Induction system I = think is under $3K and comes with just about everything you'll need (can = only be used with injected engines, of course), to have the pipes made I = would guess at about $1200, mics. stuff (glass, foam, epoxy, aluminum, = cables, oil, etc, etc, ) about $300, repaint cowl ??, plan on a few = months of your time and a few sleepless nights.......=20 Blowing by your friends when you push in the throttle.... Priceless. Randy Stuart LNC-2 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Randy=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:08 PM Subject: [LML] Cold Induction I don't know if anyone is interested but I just spent the last couple = of months installing the new ECI Cold Induction system on my LNC-2, = IO-360. I had to make new exhaust, allot of little mods and change the = cowling quite a bit but after three test flights it looks like it was = well worth the trouble.=20 I've gained noticable cruise and climb speed, the engine runs cooler = and smoother and strong. If there's interest I'll post a link to the = pictures of the work I've done and post numbers, etc.=20 Randy Stuart LNC-2 ------=_NextPart_000_012E_01C86CD1.13CAED90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK, since people = want the=20 information and pictures I'll give you what I have so=20 far.
The pictures and = be seen here:=20 http= ://members.dslextreme.com/users/netconn/Cold_Induction/
They don't seem to = put them in=20 order when I download them but they are numbered. You can see the = installation=20 of the ECI system, the building of the new pipes (321 Stainless), the = cowling=20 cuts and reconstruction, etc.
This engine is an = IO-360, with=20 10:1's, some valve work, dual exhaust and a single EI. I've = owned this=20 plane for three years. Past performance was a consistent 205 kts., = 3500', 24",=20 2500 RPM.  I now have only three flights with the ECI system and=20 the other changes. Preliminary performance, so far has been, = consistent 216=20 kts., 3500', 25", 2400 RPM. The oil runs a little cooler, the CHT's are = cooler=20 and the EGT's are very even (1380 deg's). The engine runs smoother with = no=20 hesitation at all. Very obvious smooth power difference.  The plane = also=20 appears to fly a little more stable and lands a little better, this = would be=20 from the weight loss and cowling changes.
Bare in = mind....... I did more=20 then just install this ECI Cold Induction system. I removed weight, I = removed=20 friction, better flowing exhaust and I've added more RAM = pressure. =20 The changes in the cowling also has a big effect on the cooling, along = with the=20 direct RAM air effecting the performance.
This ECI system is = a newer=20 design that was made to fit in tighter places, like a Lancair cowl. I = was asked=20 by ECI to see if it fits and works. Well, it fits and=20 works.
I still need more = testing and=20 more numbers to put together. But so far I'm very impressed with the = changes=20 I've done and the ECI Cold Induction system.  I still need to test = WOT and=20 sea level flights to see what the maximum MAP's are. =
OK, the hard = numbers... The=20 cost of the ECI Cold Induction system I think is under $3K and comes = with just=20 about everything you'll need (can only be used with injected engines, of = course), to have the pipes made I would guess at about $1200, mics. = stuff=20 (glass, foam, epoxy, aluminum, cables, oil, etc, etc, ) about $300, = repaint cowl=20 ??, plan on a few months of your time and a few sleepless nights.......=20
Blowing by your = friends when=20 you push in the throttle.... Priceless.
 
Randy=20 Stuart
LNC-2
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Randy
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 = 3:08=20 PM
Subject: [LML] Cold = Induction

I don't know if = anyone is=20 interested but I just spent the last couple of months = installing the=20 new ECI Cold Induction system on my LNC-2, IO-360. I had to make = new=20 exhaust, allot of little mods and change the cowling quite a bit = but=20 after three test flights it looks like it was well worth the trouble.=20
I've gained = noticable cruise=20 and climb speed, the engine runs cooler and smoother and strong. If = there's=20 interest I'll post a link to the pictures of the work I've done and = post=20 numbers, etc.
 
Randy=20 Stuart
LNC-2
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