Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #46086
From: LHenney <LHenney@charter.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: FW: [LML] 235/320/360 gear dump valve idea
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:34:02 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>

Randy,

 

Hold off on the machine work.  Your pump is designed with a third port (between the two now in use).  It is threaded and ready for your return line.  A ¼ “ tubing can be installed as a down tube in the tank (mine came with the tube installed).

 

Also, Randy Stuarts idea of a T shuttle sounds very, very interesting.  I don’t completely know what a T shuttle valve is however.  Thus, I’m grappling with check valve analogies and getting a lot of “how would that work?” thoughts.   Does this mean pressure on up circuit triggers opening of shuttle from down circuit, therefore T goes to third port???  I’m tempted to like this idea.  Additionally, could second T also tie in to third port and allow 3 way dump common path to reservoir.  Please tell us more R. Stuart…..

 

Larry Henney

N360LH

Much less chirping lately after changing out pump O rings; Lancair also got more pressure gauges in stock and shipped mine.

 


From: Sky2high@aol.com [mailto:Sky2high@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:49 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: Re: [LML] 235/320/360 gear dump valve idea

 

Randy,

 

Remember that the reservoir needs a small vent hole so that air pressure or vacuum does not build up in the reservoir itself.  Usually the vent is in the filler cap or its threads.

 

Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk
Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96
Aurora, IL (KARR)

Pilot not TSO'd, Certificated score only > 70%.

 

 

In a message dated 2/6/2008 11:29:13 A.M. Central Standard Time, randylsnarr@yahoo.com writes:

With the way the hydraulic system is currently designed, you equalize the pressure on the high and low sides when it is opened. For those of us who have pressure gauges, you can see that you can have significant pressure on the system even when the valve is opened. I want to be able to not only equalize the pressure between the high and low sides of the hydraulic system with the dump valve but also release the pressure on both sides.

Today I purchased a 3 way valve to do just that. The idea  is to open the valve  connecting  the high and low sides and also releasing the pressure back to the tank.
I will most likely run a low pressure line like nylaflow back to the pump and make spin up a custom fitting on the lathe out of aluminum to go into the dipstick hole and terminate the return line there. I will make a needle dipstick checker that will screw into the same fitting for checking fluid level.
If you wanted to do it the easy way, you could always just dump the low pressure line out the belly of the airplane onto the ground. It would take very little fluid to drop the pressure and there would be no need to deal with connecting the low pressure fluid line to the tank.

I hate pulling the airplane out of a cool hanger into the warm sunshine and watching the gear pressures rise to 6-700 lbs before the master switch is turned on! We all know what happens when they hit 900. Yep no gear retraction as the upper limit has been tripped by the system pressure.
My new valve would fix that!!!
I hope...

 



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