X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:39:10 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail.glasair.org ([65.75.24.102] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTPS id 2606781 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:54:37 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.75.24.102; envelope-from=Bruce@glasair.org Received: from glasair1 by mail.glasair.org (VisNetic.MailServer.v8.5.0.8) with ESMTP id ZAW48904 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:54:04 -0500 From: "Bruce Gray" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Skoppe lancair 4 pt X-Original-Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:53:55 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <015b01c84318$24e08870$1001a8c0@glasair1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_015C_01C842EE.3C0A8070" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: thread-index: AchDBSaBPvt1DKnlQEuyPTpDNt6lqQAEf9gg This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_015C_01C842EE.3C0A8070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable While I have voiced my opinions of a glass panel single AHRS system = before on this list, I still think that a good vacuum AI, ASI, and altimeter = are needed as viable backup for IFR operations. If I had mega bucks I'd go = with Dual EFIS and AHRS with a cross comparator and the vacuum AI, ASI, and altimeter as backups. The Garmin 900 and Megitt can be had with dual = AHRS, I don't think the Chelton can. =20 Bruce www.Glasair.org =20 -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of VTAILJEFF@aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:38 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Skoppe lancair 4 pt =20 In a message dated 12/19/2007 8:24:33 P.M. Central Standard Time, troneill@charter.net writes: Would a Garmin 396 GPS, running on its own battery, on flight panel, be useful? Terrence, =20 It would be useful if you had the time to go from the standard nav page = to the backup instrument panel page while the airplane was going through = some pretty good gyrations and recover it to S&L flight. Can you do that on a 396? The question you have to ask yourself (from the movie "Dirty = Harry") is "do you feel lucky?" or have you practiced flying off the 396 with = nothing else operating. Can you keep the airplane upright for 20-30 minutes = while you navigate to VMC conditions? If so, then it is a minimalist backup system-- if not then you need something else. =20 Designing one of these panels, IMHO, is an exercise in NOT putting all = your eggs in one basket.=20 =20 Regards, =20 Jeff _____ =20 See AOL's top = rated recipes and easy = ways to stay in shape for winter. ------=_NextPart_000_015C_01C842EE.3C0A8070 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

While I have = voiced my opinions of a glass panel single AHRS system before on this list, I = still think that a good vacuum AI, ASI, and altimeter are needed as viable backup = for IFR operations. If I had mega bucks I’d go with Dual EFIS and AHRS = with a cross comparator and the vacuum AI, ASI, and altimeter as backups. The = Garmin 900 and Megitt can be had with dual AHRS, I don’t think the = Chelton can.

 

 

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In a message dated 12/19/2007 8:24:33 P.M. Central Standard Time, troneill@charter.net writes:

Would a Garmin 396 GPS, running on its own battery, on = flight panel, be useful?

Terrence,=

 

It would be useful if you had the time to go from the standard nav page to = the backup instrument panel page while the airplane was going through some = pretty good gyrations and recover it to S&L flight. Can you do that on a = 396? The question you have to ask yourself (from the movie "Dirty = Harry") is "do you feel lucky?" or have you practiced flying off the 396 = with nothing else operating. Can you keep the airplane upright for 20-30 = minutes while you navigate to VMC conditions? If so, then it is a minimalist = backup system-- if not then you need something else.

 

Designing one of these panels, IMHO, is an exercise in NOT putting all your eggs = in one basket.

 

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Jeff




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