X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:23:38 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mtao02.charter.net ([209.225.8.187] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTP id 2554269 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:03:55 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.225.8.187; envelope-from=troneill@charter.net Received: from aarprv06.charter.net ([10.20.200.76]) by mtao02.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.03.00 201-2186-126-20070710) with ESMTP id <20071203230319.OAQY27011.mtao02.charter.net@aarprv06.charter.net> for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 18:03:19 -0500 Received: from axs ([75.132.198.100]) by aarprv06.charter.net with SMTP id <20071203230319.IWDS14098.aarprv06.charter.net@axs> for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 18:03:19 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <00d201c83600$b1098470$6401a8c0@axs> From: "terrence o'neill" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: limit Gs for 235 (kit #11) X-Original-Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 17:03:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CF_01C835CE.6628BCA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Chzlrs: 0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CF_01C835CE.6628BCA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Tim. =20 Terrence 235/320 M211AL ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tim J=F8rgensen=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 01:27 PM Subject: [LML] Re: limit Gs for 235 (kit #11) "Do I understand that you imply the 300-series wing that was load = tested is the same as the 200's?" The 235 and 320/360 wings are structurally VERY different. I am building a 360 and a friend of mine is building a 235, so I have = seen both wings in disassembeled state. The spar caps on the 235 are only about 2/3 as thick as the 320/360, = which translates to a lot less carbonfiber. Since anything we build in this country has to be thoroughly tried, = tested and documented, both of us needed factory verification of our = data for the wing load test. The factory (Ross) gave us the following numbers: L-235, max. GW 1400 lbs. This figure was never and will never be = raised. L-320/360 max. take off weight 1790 lbs., max. landing weight 1685 = lbs. The take off weight was raised from the original 1685 lbs. to 1790 = lbs. and this is the absolute max. weight at which the plane can be = flown safely ( I asked for 1800 lbs.). Regards Tim Jorgensen Denmark 360MKIIOBFB / 65% ------=_NextPart_000_00CF_01C835CE.6628BCA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks, Tim.  =
Terrence
235/320 M211AL
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tim = J=F8rgensen=20
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 = 01:27=20 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: limit Gs for = 235 (kit=20 #11)

"Do I understand=20 that you imply the 300-series wing that was load tested is the same as = the=20 200's?"
 
The 235 and 320/360 = wings are=20 structurally VERY different.
I am building a 360 = and a friend of=20 mine is building a 235, so I have seen both wings = in disassembeled=20 state.
The spar caps on the = 235 are only=20 about 2/3 as thick as the 320/360, which translates to a lot less=20 carbonfiber.
 
Since anything we = build in this=20 country has to be thoroughly tried, tested and documented, both = of us=20 needed factory verification of our data for the wing load=20 test.
The = factory (Ross) gave us the=20 following numbers:
 
L-235, max. GW 1400 = lbs. This=20 figure was never and will never be raised.
L-320/360 max. take = off=20 weight 1790 lbs., max. landing weight 1685 lbs. The take off = weight was=20 raised from the original 1685 lbs. to 1790 lbs. and this is the = absolute max.=20 weight at which the plane can be flown safely ( I asked for 1800=20 lbs.).
 
Regards
Tim = Jorgensen
Denmark
360MKIIOBFB /=20 65% 
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