X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:27:41 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp-1.megalink.net ([66.231.220.85] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTPS id 2553227 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 07:30:39 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.231.220.85; envelope-from=Tom@wellswoodturning.com Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-1.megalink.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371F266C10DD for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 08:33:27 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at megalink.net Received: from smtp-1.megalink.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-1.megalink.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id lHyOmMHsUAzS for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 08:33:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from homevlmwj8aarl (unknown [204.181.142.89]) by smtp-1.megalink.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A6866C11C9 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 08:33:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Tom" X-Original-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Seasonal Question on working with eGlass X-Original-Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 07:29:55 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <004e01c835a8$361569d0$6501a8c0@homevlmwj8aarl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004F_01C8357E.4D3F61D0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C8357E.4D3F61D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Richard, =20 A few years ago I ran across the issue of Amine Blush when researching = what type heat to use in my hangar. I haven't heard of anyone actually experiencing the problem but have included a link to an article I found = on the internet. I have stayed away from using salamander heaters just to be on the safe = side during my build. I live in Maine and obviously have to heat the = workspace a lot more than you would.=20 http://www.huntsman.com/performance_products/Media/Blushing_of_Amine-Cure= d_E poxy_Resins.pdf Hope this helps=20 Blue skies, Tom Wallace =20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Thomas O'Grady [mailto:ogrady@gci.net]=20 Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 11:21 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Seasonal Question on working with eGlass =20 The CO2 makes it much worse, because it makes the water acidic. I = stopped using a Red Dragon propane heater on my Cessna engine and went to = electrics and a generator when I say what the condensate was doing. =20 Tom O'Grady =20 On Nov 30, 2007, at 1:51 PM, Lorn H Olsen wrote: It isn't the CO that is rusting the metal. It is the fact that the metal = is cold and the heater warms the room. Just like a cold glass, the metal condenses water out of the air. This water helps it to rust. =20 If the room were keep warm all of the time the metals would not rust. =20 From: "Peter Field" Date: November 29, 2007 11:28:44 AM GMT-05:00 =20 Richard: Any heater that exhausts carbon monoxide into your hangar will = cause everything metal to rust if you use it continually. I used a large = torpedo heater for one winter and discontinued its use because everything metal = that was exposed started to rust or exfoliate, plus all that carbon monoxide = was not good for me to breathe. I don't think the CO will hurt the e-glass. =20 Pete Field LNC2, St Louis =20 From: Richard T. Schaefer [mailto:schaefer@rts-services.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:25 PM =20 As it's starts to get cooler (It's never really cold in Austin) I have thought about auxiliary heat for the hanger. =20 Is there any problem with some of the forced air heaters Diesel/Jet = Fuel, or Propane in terms of the interacting negatively with the E-glass construction. i.e. If it's ok for me to breathe is it ok in the construction = environment ? These are not externally vented so I was worried about chemical = interaction with the exhaust fumes. =20 Richard T. Schaefer E-mail: schaefer@RTS-Services.com RTS Services Inc Web: http://www.RTS-Services.com 7330 Cave Hollow ___ Voice: (512) 923-2755 Austin, TX 78750 | Fax: (830) 798-9644 `---------(*)---------' -- Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, DynaComm, Corp. 248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.ws LNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,300 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C8357E.4D3F61D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Richard,

 

A few years ago I ran across the issue of Amine Blush = when researching what
type heat to use in my hangar. I haven't heard of anyone actually
experiencing the problem but have included a link to an article I found = on
the internet.

I have stayed away from using salamander heaters just to be on the safe = side
during my build. I live in Maine and = obviously have to heat the workspace a
lot more than you would.

http://www.huntsman.com/performance_products/Media/Blushing_of_Amine-Cure= d_E
poxy_Resins.pdf

Hope this helps



Blue skies,



Tom Wallace

 

 

 

-----Original = Message-----
From: Thomas O'Grady [mailto:ogrady@gci.net]
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 11:21 = AM
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: = Seasonal Question on working with eGlass

 

The CO2 makes it much worse, because it makes = the water acidic.  I stopped using a Red Dragon propane heater on my = Cessna engine and went to electrics and a generator when I say what the = condensate was doing.

 

Tom O'Grady

 

On Nov 30, 2007, at 1:51 PM, = Lorn H Olsen wrote:



It isn't the CO that is rusting the metal. It = is the fact that the metal is cold and the heater warms the room. Just like a = cold glass, the metal condenses water out of the air. This water helps it to = rust.

 

If the room were keep warm all of the time = the metals would not rust.

 

From: "Peter Field" <anpfield@sbcglobal.net>

Date: November 29, 2007 = 11:28:44 AM GMT-05:00

 

Richard:

     Any heater that = exhausts carbon monoxide into your hangar will cause everything metal to rust if = you use it continually. I used a large torpedo heater for one winter and = discontinued its use because everything metal that was exposed started to rust = or exfoliate, plus all that carbon monoxide was not good for me to = breathe.  I don't think the CO will hurt the e-glass.

 

Pete Field

LNC2, St Louis

 

From: Richard T. Schaefer [mailto:schaefer@rts-services.co= m] 

Sent: Tuesday, November 27, = 2007 4:25 PM

 

As it’s starts to get cooler = (It’s never really cold in Austin) I have thought about auxiliary heat for the = hanger.

 

Is there any problem with some of the forced = air heaters Diesel/Jet Fuel, or Propane in terms of the interacting = negatively with the E-glass construction.

i.e. If it’s ok for me to breathe is it = ok in the construction environment ? These are not externally vented so I was = worried about chemical interaction with the exhaust fumes.

 

Richard T. = Schaefer      E-mail: schaefer@RTS-Services.com

RTS Services Inc          Web: http://www.RTS-Services.com

7330 Cave = Hollow         ___        Voice:  = (512) 923-2755
Austin, TX 78750        =   |         Fax:    = (830) 798-9644
            &= nbsp;  `---------(*)---------'

--

Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, DynaComm, = Corp.

248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.ws

LNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,300 hrs, N31161, Y47, = SE = Michigan



 

 

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