X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:51:20 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.137] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c3) with ESMTP id 2520188 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:45:17 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.139.137; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id q.ccb.2167a664 (14457) for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:44:38 -0500 (EST) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:44:37 EST Subject: Re: [LML] Re: limit Gs for 235 (kit #11) X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1196383477" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5006 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1196383477 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/29/2007 6:04:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, troneill@charter.net writes: Do I understand that you imply the 300-series wing that was load tested is the same as the 200's? Terry, Ahh, I don't think the 200 series wing was tested in that manner. A better question might be, "Is my wing built to the same standards as the tested wing?" Whatever those "standards" were, such as being built to the plans and specifications. If the answer is yes, then the recommended max GW should be well within the limits as I believe most Lancair builders think that these craft are overbuilt anyway. Over time, I saw a Lancair built to no standards at all (when finished, it looked bad from 40 feet away) - micro was considered structural, voids had no importance, cleanliness was unheard of, no attention to detail was present, builder did not listen to advice of others, etc. Yet, it flew for about a year and crashed because the pilot had a heart attack. If you read the report you will find at least one example of poor construction, that the separated seat belt attachments were glued in place, not bolted. See CHI95FA200 (6/24/95) in _http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/query.asp_ (http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/query.asp) . Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96 Aurora, IL (KARR) PS I learned a lot from my own mistakes, but even more from those of others. **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) -------------------------------1196383477 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 11/29/2007 6:04:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,=20 troneill@charter.net writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3D"MS Reference Sans Serif"=20 color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Do I under= stand that=20 you imply the 300-series wing that was load tested is the same as the=20 200's?
Terry,
 
Ahh, I don't think the 200 series wing was tested in that manner. = A=20 better question might be, "Is my wing built to the same standards as the tes= ted=20 wing?" Whatever those "standards" were, such as being built to the plan= s=20 and specifications.  If the answer is yes, then the recommended ma= x GW=20 should be well within the limits as I believe most Lancair builders think th= at=20 these craft are overbuilt anyway. 
 
Over time, I saw a Lancair built to no standards at all (when=20 finished, it looked bad from 40 feet away) - micro was considered=20 structural, voids had no importance, cleanliness was unheard of, no=20 attention to detail was present, builder did not listen to advice=20 of others, etc.  Yet, it flew for about a year and crashed because= the=20 pilot had a heart attack.  If you read the report you will find at leas= t=20 one example of poor construction, that the separated seat belt attachments w= ere=20 glued in place, not bolted.  See CHI95FA200 (6/24/95) in http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/query.a= sp .=20
 
Scott Krueger=20 AKA Grayhawk
Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96
Aurora, IL (KARR)

PS I learned a lot from my own mistakes, but even more from those of=20 others.



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