X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:57:36 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTP id 2509273 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:17:31 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.137.2; envelope-from=RWolf99@aol.com Received: from RWolf99@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id q.c18.23c88d0a (34928) for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:16:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from MBLK-M18 (mblk-m18.mblk.aol.com [64.12.136.51]) by cia-da04.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA041-8870474db086259; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:16:38 -0500 X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Workshop Heat X-Original-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:16:38 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: rwolf99@aol.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CA0001F397E4B6_A94_3FD2_MBLK-M18.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 32750-STANDARD Received: from 72.19.171.41 by MBLK-M18.sysops.aol.com (64.12.136.51) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:16:38 -0500 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CA0001F397E4B6-A94-1F3B@MBLK-M18.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 64.12.136.51 X-Spam-Flag: NO ----------MB_8CA0001F397E4B6_A94_3FD2_MBLK-M18.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Concerning workshop heaters, this is my experience: When I lived in Phoenix it was never an issue.? However, I did have an issue with epoxy kicking off way too fast in the summer.? But that's another story. When I lived in Cleveland (in a rental townhouse) I would try to work in the garage when it was COLD outside.? Maybe 20 degrees or less.? I had a propane-fired "bullet" heater intended to warm construction sites.? This is the red cylinder a little bigger than a scuba tank that lies on the floor.? The air got warm, but all of the stuff in the shop was cold, including tools, which made me wear gloves and also collected condensation.? The fumes were objectionable, and I got headaches on?occasion,?but I never actually passed out and died.? Also, even if I kept epoxy in the house, spreading out 70 degree epoxy on a 25 degree airplane didn't work.? It was also incredibly noisy. Bottom line -- the space heater didn't work and I gave it away. When I lived in California along the coast?(they say you don't need heat or air conditioning -- but they lie) I would routinely set up little ceramic space heaters and tin foil to make little warm sections when I did a layup.? I would also open the door to the house for extra warmth.? It worked, but I was getting tired of it.? I was renting a house there, also.? When I moved to Colorado (and bought a house) I installed a natural gas heater in the garage.? I bought it from Grainger Industrial Supply (it's called a "unit heater" for some unknown reason).? Cost was $600 for the heater and $600 for a plumber to come out and install it.? It works extremely well.? Initially I lowered the temperature to 60 degrees during the week and turned it up on Friday nights for the weekend, but now I just leave it set to a constant temperature.? If I use hysol (which takes longer to cure) then I kick the temperature up to 75 or 80 degrees when I'm done. The cost of the natural gas heater is inconsequential in our utility bills.? I think during the coldest months of the year it might actually cost $25 or $30 per month.? Of course, the garage door is insulated as are the walls and the ceiling. Another tip -- paint the walls and the ceiling white.? Install four 200 W bulbs in the ceiling.? You can use those clamp on lighting fixtures and tap off the main lighting fixture for the power (all outside-the-wall stuff, no permanent wiring required).? You'll be glad you did. - Rob Wolf ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003 ----------MB_8CA0001F397E4B6_A94_3FD2_MBLK-M18.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Concerning workshop heaters, this is my experience:

When I lived in Phoenix it was never an issue.  However, I did have an issue with epoxy kicking off way too fast in the summer.  But that's another story.

When I lived in Cleveland (in a rental townhouse) I would try to work in the garage when it was COLD outside.  Maybe 20 degrees or less.  I had a propane-fired "bullet" heater intended to warm construction sites.  This is the red cylinder a little bigger than a scuba tank that lies on the floor.  The air got warm, but all of the stuff in the shop was cold, including tools, which made me wear gloves and also collected condensation.  The fumes were objectionable, and I got headaches on occasion, but I never actually passed out and died.  Also, even if I kept epoxy in the house, spreading out 70 degree epoxy on a 25 degree airplane didn't work.  It was also incredibly noisy.

Bottom line -- the space heater didn't work and I gave it away.

When I lived in California along the coast (they say you don't need heat or air conditioning -- but they lie) I would routinely set up little ceramic space heaters and tin foil to make little warm sections when I did a layup.  I would also open the door to the house for extra warmth.  It worked, but I was getting tired of it.  I was renting a house there, also. 

When I moved to Colorado (and bought a house) I installed a natural gas heater in the garage.  I bought it from Grainger Industrial Supply (it's called a "unit heater" for some unknown reason).  Cost was $600 for the heater and $600 for a plumber to come out and install it.  It works extremely well.  Initially I lowered the temperature to 60 degrees during the week and turned it up on Friday nights for the weekend, but now I just leave it set to a constant temperature.  If I use hysol (which takes longer to cure) then I kick the temperature up to 75 or 80 degrees when I'm done.

The cost of the natural gas heater is inconsequential in our utility bills.  I think during the coldest months of the year it might actually cost $25 or $30 per month.  Of course, the garage door is insulated as are the walls and the ceiling.

Another tip -- paint the walls and the ceiling white.  Install four 200 W bulbs in the ceiling.  You can use those clamp on lighting fixtures and tap off the main lighting fixture for the power (all outside-the-wall stuff, no permanent wiring required).  You'll be glad you did.

- Rob Wolf
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