Return-Path: Received: from web111.yahoomail.com ([205.180.60.81]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 01:57:31 -0500 Received: (qmail 5639 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Dec 1999 07:02:15 -0000 Received: from [207.174.21.101] by web111.yahoomail.com; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 23:02:15 PST Message-ID: <19991214070215.5638.qmail@web111.yahoomail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 23:02:15 -0800 (PST) From: BILL HANNAHAN Subject: CG Issues To: MAIL LANCAIR X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> When the 320 was designed they lengthened and enlarged the tail for the larger engines and props. They also moved the battery back for CG purposes. I have been flying a 360 with the long Hartzel prop since 92 (1300hrs). I made it as simple and light as possible (1010 lbs.) with the standard parts, and it is quite nose heavy with no baggage, which is good. A longer engine mount will add square inches of wetted surface area increasing parasitic drag. More importantly it adds those square inches well forward of the CG and moves the prop disk forward. From a stability standpoint both of these changes cancel out square inches at the tail reducing pitch and yaw stability margins. If you want to move the CG forward move the battery up behind the seat and save a little weight on cables. If you want to save a lot of weight and make a big CG change delete the passenger rudder pedals and install the battery on the back of the fire wall. Does your passenger need rudder pedals? Yes if you are building a trainer, otherwise no. It flies great with the stick, the pedals are only required when weight is on the gear. When my passengers get in and realize there are no pedals they usually enquire about my health and ask what they are supposed to do if I have the ‘BIG ONE’. The answer is, 1 Find an airport with a long wide smooth hard surface runway. 2 Set up a long shallow stabilized final at 85-90 mph with the gear up and 20 degrees of flap. 3 Don’t move a muscle, don’t try to save the engine and prop, just fly it onto the runway gear up, it will be the safest landing you ever make. Why is a gear up landing safer? Because lots of bad things can happen when the gear is down. A tire can blow and jerk you off the runway at high speed. A brake can lock up and jerk you off the runway at high speed. A gear leg can collapse and jerk you off the runway at high speed. Your passenger can bounce it off the nose gear and get into a big PIO. With the gear up your passenger only lands once, he can’t get the nose up to make it fly again. Your beautiful airplane is transformed into an expensive hockey puck which slides to a stop along a reasonably short and straight line. In seven years only one passenger has landed on the first try without help. The average passenger trying to land on the gear under the stress of an emergency will most likely PIO, stall/spin. Don’t try this on grass. A metal prop may dig in and flip the airplane. Wood props will shatter, but if the ground is soft or uneven some other part of the plane may gouge into the soil resulting in the dreaded sudden stop. Sudden stops are not likely on hard surface runways unless the angle of incidence is substantial. Keep building, it’s an amazing airplane and still great fun to fly. BILL HANNAHAN WFHANNAHAN@YAHOO.COM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>