Return-Path: Received: from mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.19]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 00:12:24 -0500 Received: from default- ([12.74.128.162]) by mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991212051705.FYQY727@default-> for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 05:17:05 +0000 Message-ID: <002801bf4460$522ea100$a2804a0c@default-> Reply-To: "John Wright" From: "John Wright" To: "LML" Subject: Sudden drop in RPM with TSIO550E1B in a 4P Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 22:18:25 -0700 X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Last summer climbing out of San Jose on a warm day as I passed through Fl 190 I experienced a sudden large drop in engine RPM with accompanying large yaw to the right. I leaned the mixture by pulling out the knob about an inch and the engine immediately came back to life. This occurred as I was just over the Sierras! I have been asked questions like what was your fuel flow and fuel pressure etc. etc. but at a moment like that you don't calmly scan the panel so I wasn't able to glean that information, but I do recall that my manifold pressure was dropping from my climb setting of 30" at 2500 RPM to where it had fallen to about 27" to 28" just before the event. I had a second occurance climbing out of El Paso last summer with almost identical results. This time passing through FL190 I heard a backfire sound that sounded like it was to the left of the pilot side of the plane. Once again the MP dropped to about 27" inspite of advancing the throttle all the way to the firewall. As before the RPMs suddenly dropped with a large right yaw corrected by immediately leaning the mixture. I'm not 100% sure but I believe I looked at the fuel flow and saw a surge, but I am not aware of the actual value. One opinion was that the aneroid on the fuel pump was bad, so the fuel pump was replaced. The weekend after replacement I departed Colorado Springs Aug. 1st en route to Osh Kosh by way of Dallas for some avionics work. I climbed from our field on a pleasant temperature (65F?) morning departing at field elevation of 6800ft up to 17,500 with no problems and had an uneventful flight to Dallas. I thought the problem was solved until I departed Dallas at 3:30pm with 98F temp. As I climbed through 13,000 the problem recurred and I corrected as I had before. I leveled off and made sure that everything was OK. I again climbed and as I passed through 17,000 ft the engine hesitated again with a large drop in RPM and was again corrected by leaning. The common factors in this problem have been warm ambient temperatures combined with a prolonged climb. One expert I had inspect the airplane noticed that we did not have a cooling shroud around the fuel pump. We were not aware that there was supposed to be one. After all when you spend $52,000 on an engine you make the assumption that all necessary attachments are included. A shroud was ordered from Lancair for about $30 and installed. My A&P informs me that this is standard procedure on all of the Bonanza's they work on. Since that time I have not had a recurrence of the problem, but I have not flown in as warm temperatures as previously, so the real test will come this summer. My A&P theorizes that warm fuel taken on at locations on a warm day was a contributing factor keeping in mind that the boiling point of the fuel lowers as altitude is gained. There is not much cooling behind the aft baffling without the cooling shroud and the fuel pump may have also been heating up. The combination of the two may have caused fuel vaporization leading to the engine hesitation and subsequent improvement by leaning. I hope that the above information will save someone else the potential problems that I had. Previously I would typically climb at about 160kts., but now I like to climb at about 170kts to keep things cooler. John Wright N338L Colorado Springs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>